Released a broken Eureka

[Zeonx]

Been watching my cousin play it and he's been having a hard time getting into a party and here is what i have noticed.

1. he's level 4 he tries to get into a party for low levels can't hasn't had luck yet he's stuck soloing level 1-3's

2. If he wants to be a part of a train party he gets thrown under bus for higher levels no there is no way to gain anything.

3. you can follow the trains but ultimately die and if a person is nice they will raise you up if not you have to HP and even if so you are too weak to hurt the monster gaining less exp.

Why release something that doesn't benefit everyone but a specific crowd of people?

I must say this turns me off about doing it.

[Hestzhyen]

Been watching my cousin play it and he's been having a hard time getting into a party and here is what i have noticed.

1. he's level 4 he tries to get into a party for low levels can't hasn't had luck yet he's stuck soloing level 1-3's

2. If he wants to be a part of a train party he gets thrown under bus for higher levels no there is no way to gain anything.

3. you can follow the trains but ultimately die and if a person is nice they will raise you up if not you have to HP and even if so you are too weak to hurt the monster gaining less exp.

Why release something that doesn't benefit everyone but a specific crowd of people?

I must say this turns me off about doing it.

People wanted to play XI but didn't want to sub for the actual game itself. Lo and behold, we get a poor man's XI with more flair but less fun.

I think (hope) SE will improve it dramatically. I can't stomach it as it is right now.

[Zeonx]

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Yep looks bad he even did party finder and he got sick of waiting for 30 minutes cause most all are doing train and people choose low lv friends in fc or Ls

When you check party finder its mostly 10 and up no low level groups and if you weren't here when it started you lose out.

I do not know what SE was thinking with this its like abyss mostly instead of key items to power you up its elements.

Also notice some people shouting at low level end up just leaving usually couple of dps they don't want group just train.

[Vstarstruck]

People wanted to play XI but didn't want to sub for the actual game itself. Lo and behold, we get a poor man's XI with more flair but less fun.

I think (hope) SE will improve it dramatically. I can't stomach it as it is right now.

I really hope this was not their idea of trying to put something from FFXI into this game because it does such a poor job in doing so. There is a lot of good things in FFXI this game can learn from, but not abyssea leveling.

OP:
We had a lot of threads on this diadem 3.0 and the mods deleted a lot of them, isn't best just to post in the first impressions thread? such theme does fit what you are talking about here.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...sion-of-Eureka

[Zeonx]

I really hope this was not their idea of trying to put something from FFXI into this game because it does such a poor job in doing so. There is a lot of good things in FFXI this game can learn from, but not abyssea leveling.

OP:
We had a lot of threads on this diadem 3.0 and the mods deleted a lot of them, isn't best just to post in the first impressions thread? such theme does fit what you are talking about here.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...sion-of-Eureka

not a impressions thread, I am basically flat out saying its not fit for release.

It doesn't benefit anyone low level and if you work a job in real life good luck getting ahead in this some people quit FFXI because of the grind and getting left out and came to FFXIV for something new something they wouldn't get pushed out and sure you could say eventually they will patch it but it ain't gonna be anytime soon.

by that time they would of said forget it moved on and SE patches but by that time people moved on the next part they probably added in future making it less able to catch up.

You have to remember everyone pays a subscription and the content created should benefit everyone not making it where people get ditched.

Sorry that's just how I see it.

[TraeSnow]

Not being invited to a party purely because high levels are wanted is purely the players fault. Not Eureka's and not SEs. You do not need an entire team of 19s to get Gold participation but people seem to think you do.

The general rule for Eureka for leveling off mobs is: If solo, fight mobs the same level as you, maybe a level above IF you can handle it and not die. If party, fight 3+ levels higher.
If your friend is fighting lvl 1 mobs as a lvl 4, then yes, it is going to feel boring and will take forever.

For raises, I've never been in an Eureka instance where all players didn't get raised after the NM was over. Ever. During? Eh, depends on MP of the RezMages.

I leveled to 20 purely off NM trains and in all the parties I was in, no one was ever kicked for their level. So it seems odd your friend is getting invited and then kicked. It does suck being a low level in Eureka, for sure, but not everyone is an elitist. When I make a party, I personally invite anyone that asks for a party. Regardless of level (I even invited a level 1 to NM train because he asked to lol).

In all, Eureka is partially to blame for being non newb friendly (In sense of low levels having a hard time) but players are also to blame.

[Vstarstruck]

not a impressions thread, I am basically flat out saying its not fit for release.

It doesn't benefit anyone low level and if you work a job in real life good luck getting ahead in this some people quit FFXI because of the grind and getting left out and came to FFXIV for something new something they wouldn't get pushed out and sure you could say eventually they will patch it but it ain't gonna be anytime soon.

by that time they would of said forget it moved on and SE patches but by that time people moved on the next part they probably added in future making it less able to catch up.

I agree but I am trying to tell you making a new thread on this is not a good idea, SE has been deleting them expecting them to post in that one.

Not being invited to a party purely because high levels are wanted is purely the players fault. Not Eureka's and not SEs.

Wrong it is SE's fault, with all the delays, level sync function in this environment should of been expected. Even with all the delays and recourse allocation to it in 17 month development ended up being released rushed and unfinished, no excuse for that.

[TraeSnow]

Wrong it is SE's fault, with all the delays, level sync function in this environment should of been expected.

Last I checked there is no feature created by SE that is forcing people to only play with other high levels. It is a choice by the player. SE has no control over that and they never will.

[Vstarstruck]

Last I checked there is no feature created by SE that is forcing people to only play with other high levels. It is a choice by the player. SE has no control over that and they never will.

Do you know what level sync is? It has been in FFXI for like 8 years, there is NO EXCUSE for this place to lack it, so it is SE's fault.
https://youtu.be/kGvtpwwHoJo?t=615

[Penthea]

In all, Eureka is partially to blame for being non newb friendly (In sense of low levels having a hard time) but players are also to blame.

Such is the way with community driven content. It can shine, I have had some wonderful moments in Eureka because of this. However I also have had unpleasant moments because of some bad eggs. Sometimes it takes just one waste of space to ruin a fate for everyone.

Eureka is really missing a LFG tool. This would help players find others within their level bracket looking for those of similar level. Or perhaps something that would toss you into an instance with the most similarly leveled players present so you can easily find a group yourself. There isn't a lack of low level players, but they're spread across a large amount of instances.