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  1. #1411
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    Ruf's Avatar
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    Rufuso Aesir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    I had issues with XI for doing that for all content...
    Actually farming job points can be done slow to the point of gaining 75 job points a kill solo or you can also kill harder monsters for 6k job points solo it really depend of what you feel like doing & how strong/knowledgable geared you are, are you farming items? then sure less cp /job points a kill is bleh, or do you just want to do a core job points grind? then aim for harder monsters (that can be chained just as much if done properly) Or you know you want chain 30 with 60000points a kill per 15seconds then you build a party of 6 (YES a party of 6!(I would say none of this automated Carp!totally,that that DF placing you with 4 to 8 players randomly is. BUT I WONT as this can occur even more arguments...I'm sure there is some counter arguments out there...)That include communication & synchronization to trigger skillchains & magic bursts) not a 144 zonewide nm zergfest.I like the capacity points/job points system,it gives the game a longevity & there is mad options as I just stated on how it can be done.In no way this game will ever match the originality that ff11 is, its uncomparable.One could argue that eleven got a lot of stuffs from earlier games like tactics & what not but the truth is that xi stand the first & original ff online that ever got created (unless I'm unaware of things) XI from a to z was mastercraft, xi is genius muhahaha, xiv not so m,,,nvm! Point is 14 got potential & its sad & it keep getting even more sad.

    Ps: Yes you can get 75 xp per kill or 150 xp per kill solo in eureka by yourself just like you can go to 2750 for a fate participation (which usually involve death) & even if, the whole xp requirement for a lvl is much greater on xiv than xi so its not the same at all, 75xp on xiv is not the same value as 75 xp on xi, job points stand steady at 30k/per no matter what, you just choose where you want to spend it (& yes it actually do a difference) versus xiv attributes system that failed & got deleted so on so on...

    The fact that eureka isn't centered around an automated party builder program is like one of the little things that i consider good for the moment i guess...
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    Last edited by Ruf; 03-20-2018 at 06:27 AM.

  2. #1412
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    Laladyn's Avatar
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    Well i just want the whole game to be like FFXI honestly, because of that i really liked Eureka. Since 3.0, at least, the game has followed the same template patch after patch which is super boring by now. For eureka im sad i cant level anymore and that i am finished with the contend allready. Also for Eureka i would like the game to encourage chain XP partys more by reducing NM XP and increasing Chain XP. But its seems im in the vast minority here and most people do nothing but complain complain complain about everything and anything, teh community has become so whiny and salty i wouldnt be surprised if that will kill FFXIV slowly, it almost sounds like people whant it to die. In the end its just a game either enjoy it or stop playing if you dont enjoy it
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  3. #1413
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    Hellbound Heart
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zetsumei_Tsunarashi View Post

    -Create ways to discourage players from just going AFK until an NM spawns. It feels bad when you're doing all the work to spawn the NM and there's like 50 people just standing around doing nothing and getting the same reward.
    You do know that their are so many people sometimes that having a bunch go afk is all they can do. I have seen, myself included, have gotten maybe, MAYBE, one hit on a monster before their dead. 90% of the NM's i participate in wont even chain, AT ALL. That and most of the time you cant even see a monster unless your right on top of them. Which is a real problem. This happens to me all the time. 10 feet away from me in game is amob of 5 but, cant see them and the fact they dissapear is annoying so, yeah, I dont mind when they go afk and stand off to the side, makes it easier for monsters and mobs to even appear on screen. So, rewards are not the same at all depending on level.


    Personally, I have no problems with lowbies going afk while level 20's devastate mobs. It helps them catch up. Plus, depending on level, you might get no rewards at all. At 15, Pazuzu only gives xp, no lootboxes, no crystals, nothing.

    Like I said earlier in a post, if you take a day off, youll easily be 10 levels or more behind someone making the content impossable for low levels or new people to get anything done when everybody only wants to spawn level 20 stuff.
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  4. #1414
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laladyn View Post
    Well i just want the whole game to be like FFXI honestly
    If FFXI had the love/ressources from the developpers/company that xiv is getting/gaining (graphic/engine revamp/advertisements...better ones maybe?!!!) & more content added to the game FFXI foundation design,,, I just like to imagine what that eureka would be...(Sure ps4 limitations might be an issue for ffxiv, but playstation limitations are no longer an issue for ffxi! even if ps2 devkits are still there it should not be a problem (save datas(like se doesn't have the whole structure mapped out already in a drawer...maybe I'm wrong..),duplicate the game while modifiying the spaghetti code structure from scratch(of course what I'm saying doesn't involve closing the servers in the meantime)as creating a plug for a data transmorfing is more than likely possible in 2018, then transfer characters like a server merge)Rebuild fresh on a solid foundation(((Mister Potatoe head & Madam Potatoe already succeeded giving xi better graphics if I'm not mistaken))))that's what I'm speaking of,(Give it same requirements as ffxiv is given for whats needed for the graphics & rendering on a computer & voila!I dont want to have to spend anymore on pc parts,but instead I'd rather (((((((pay for) (((MORE STORY & ****BETTER GAMEPLAY***\CONTENT))))))than to have to buy new computers components & consoles/straight up. Heres my input about eureka,its tasteless for a final fantasy franchise fan & so while someone must eat to live, it doesn't mean we enjoy what we are served.

    P.s:Cockroaches are edible...(probably tasty i guess...) & btw while i used to/like sony, with what we have seen from adoulin ps2 discountination for na players on xi to hearing about playstation limitations all the time upon how fixing this & that cant be done,i'd rather just not have final fantasy for console anymore at this point/straight up,there,limitations gones(loud&clear),what's next? computers cant go further & we need dna memory stacking for a better game experience now?!You know with vr & all...Point is, for several years i didn't trust wireless, i finally gave a wireless headset a try, went with ps4 gold (immediately changed it to platinum) they work great, besides the fact that it hurt my head.My head is too big i guess... but yea that's the point,I'm sick of excuses/straight up.I know a lot of persons that have never tried xi because they started playing an online game way after i did & also ffxiv got this advantage of game time cards over only recurrent cc sub payment mode,sure there is crysta, sure there is prepaid ccards but in the end, that game time option just never existed for xi, thus a lot of individuals didn't get to try it, even if a free month & discounts are handed out.Quit the wowwannabeezzzzzbs
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    Last edited by Ruf; 03-20-2018 at 06:20 AM.

  5. #1415
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    Zetsumei_Tsunarashi's Avatar
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    Zetsumei Tsunarashi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vstarstruck View Post

    Quote Originally Posted by Zetsumei_Tsunarashi View Post
    -Display a timer showing the amount of time since the instance was generated.
    that really exists... it is in the timer on duty remaining
    To be clear, this suggestion is refering to the time since the instance itself was generated. I'm not talking about the 180min time limit that you have in an instance. It would be a timer counting upwards from the moment the first person entered the instance and the new instance was created. This would be so you can judge whether or not enough time has passed for NMs to be spawnable again in that particular instance.
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  6. #1416
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    Remedi Maxwell
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    Cerberus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    Both sides are quite aggressive at some time. At the start of the thread nobody attacked the opinion of the other side. Only when people started to call us stupid (because we seemingly dont get it thus thats why we dont like it) or a meme and more did people also become way more aggressive. Thats not good but honestly I am also getting a bit of tired that people post that its only us (as those that dislike it) are aggressive..even though we had more than enough posts from someone that likes it. (And its a bit sad that someone comes and say that I lie about the japanese players and then I go back to the thread, search for the highest posts and translate them with google again just to be sure that I remember it right, post all of them here and yet I get no single answer..heck I am still waiting on their post to show me the positives comments that seemingly exists in their opinion. So I guess I was right and this was just a needless personal attack)
    Ok, I understand but going back and forth with attacks won't solve anything it has to stop somewhere or this will simply degenerate even more.
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  7. #1417
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    Quote Originally Posted by mandodo69 View Post
    OMG this for sure. I took one day off from the grind, I was level 8, came back the next day and out of 17 instances, all had NM groups of level 18+ fighting level 20 monsters. Now im level 15 and everybody is 20 doing Pazuzu only. All they do now is pop in, ask if Pazuzu is up or join a party and ask and if not, they dip and leave. Been that way for 2 days now. People in my FC already have 3+ gear and weps fully done. Now I feel like if I dont do it everytime I log in, ill be way behind and not able to get it done.
    Yep. This may be the first patch I unsub and play something else until our next update, depending on what my static does this week. I've got a lot of things I'd rather do than spend hours grinding with strangers to Netflix.

    Eureka is all the two FC Discords I'm in are doing in the evenings now.
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  8. #1418
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    Avatre Drakone
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    Quote Originally Posted by mandodo69 View Post
    Like I said earlier in a post, if you take a day off, youll easily be 10 levels or more behind someone making the content impossable for low levels or new people to get anything done when everybody only wants to spawn level 20 stuff.
    Or if you work a full time job, that tends to have overtime, you end up very far behind as well(finally got to level 6 over the weekend...still haven't gotten the level 5 magicite). Or if you even try to have a life outside of work, and go out for an evening/day on the weekend.
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  9. #1419
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    Nariel Cendrenuit
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    Hey, how about the stat leveling systèm of Final Fantasy II to Eureka, would be so innovative : even more grind, mono skill spamming to leveling them... Think about all the fun you could have whith this !!


    To the staff : Please no ! its a joke, please don't do it !!!!!
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  10. #1420
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nariel View Post
    To the staff : Please no ! its a joke, please don't do it !!!!!
    Frankly, if it comes will the ability to customize your character by focusing on different weapon skills that someone else, sign me in !
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