What's your first impression of Eureka?

[Kallera]

Ok, I haven't delved very far in this, but, from your point of view, how reasonable is it to do PotD solo as opposed to a light party ? Because it was also billed as "potential solo content", but going solo means that one death and you're out.

As someone who has done it solo, pretty reasonable.

Yes the later levels are not done correctly, as certain roles end up getting killed by the bosses with no real answer, but there is clearly effort to make the content a solo activity. there are leaderboards and achievements for milestones reached whole doing it solo.

In Eureka it just puts you into the world solo, there is no particular benefit or thing to shoot for in solo play, no challenge or goal to go after, the nm train and strict lvl restrictions rule everything from exploration to damage and exp rewards in their FATEs.

[Tsunenori]

Ok, I haven't delved very far in this, but, from your point of view, how reasonable is it to do PotD solo as opposed to a light party ? Because it was also billed as "potential solo content", but going solo means that one death and you're out.

Palace of the Dead is very solo-able. Floor 200 not as much and I think they should tweak things a bit since literally one class is capable of it, but regardless I've spent more time in Palace of the Dead solo than not. Bringing this up as some kind of unreasonable bar just because recklessness gets you killed isn't really fitting to this conversation. If anything PotD is a golden example of content that's fun in a group AND solo.

Eureka on the other hand is exceptionally punishing if you're playing by yourself. There's nothing that says they can't look at the solo Eureka player experience and improve it, while leaving the group experience intact.

Edit: Just to expand on that a tiny bit, the majority of the complaints about solo play in Eureka I think would be solved by adjusting experience gain. I don't think many people mind the danger of the world, just how long it takes to level if you don't want to jump in a party.

[FunkYeahDragons]

A unique hell where if I take a day off for real-life or other games, I'll be even further behind everyone I know and unable to participate.

[Fynlar]

Ok, I haven't delved very far in this, but, from your point of view, how reasonable is it to do PotD solo as opposed to a light party ? Because it was also billed as "potential solo content", but going solo means that one death and you're out.

Very doable. Sure, going all the way to the end is a feat that hardly anyone has accomplished, but it's not like you have to beat the whole thing to great rewards out of it.

Also, not sure if you are aware, but there are actually achievements for reaching certain points in POTD on a solo run, so it's obviously something the devs intended to be done. (Yes, even though this is a MMORPG, other guy.)

[Remedi]

Very doable. Sure, going all the way to the end is a feat that hardly anyone has accomplished, but it's not like you have to beat the whole thing to great rewards out of it.

Also, not sure if you are aware, but there are actually achievements for reaching certain points in POTD on a solo run, so it's obviously something the devs intended to be done. (Yes, even though this is a MMORPG, other guy.)

the achievement of solo floor 200 is achievable by only 1 job with a hefty amount of RNG, moreover the rewards are apparebtly needed for some of the fashion report conditions and let's not forget that before the sustain potion it was not possible for dps to go beyond floor 130 and for healers about floor 160

That's what Reyhart was probably talking about (minus the fashion report thing) while potd has been promoted as solo achievable even in the lower floors it really wasn't

Besides I remember a lengthy forum post saying that the solo 1-200 floor achievement was BS because of the sheer luck you need to reach it

[Avatre]

moreover the rewards are apparebtly needed for some of the fashion report conditions

Not really needed. The Glass Pumpkin Earring that were BiS for this last Fashion Report could have been completely ignored and you would still have gotten 96 points(that's what I got, and I've never gone past floor 100 in PotD). You don't need 100 every week, hell, that is overkill to be completely honest. I've gotten 100 once, and in the 90s a few times. The rest have been in the mid to high 80s, and I still unlocked the Spring Bottoms and shoes this weekend.

[Remedi]

Yes I did the same but some ppl might fancy scoring 100 every time and imho requiring such RNG rewards doesn't really stands good on me

[mandodo69]

A unique hell where if I take a day off for real-life or other games, I'll be even further behind everyone I know and unable to participate.

OMG this for sure. I took one day off from the grind, I was level 8, came back the next day and out of 17 instances, all had NM groups of level 18+ fighting level 20 monsters. Now im level 15 and everybody is 20 doing Pazuzu only. All they do now is pop in, ask if Pazuzu is up or join a party and ask and if not, they dip and leave. Been that way for 2 days now. People in my FC already have 3+ gear and weps fully done. Now I feel like if I dont do it everytime I log in, ill be way behind and not able to get it done.

[MilanFrozen]

the achievement of solo floor 200 is achievable by only 1 job with a hefty amount of RNG, moreover the rewards are apparebtly needed for some of the fashion report conditions and let's not forget that before the sustain potion it was not possible for dps to go beyond floor 130 and for healers about floor 160

That's what Reyhart was probably talking about (minus the fashion report thing) while potd has been promoted as solo achievable even in the lower floors it really wasn't

Besides I remember a lengthy forum post saying that the solo 1-200 floor achievement was BS because of the sheer luck you need to reach it

PotD is actually a pretty good example in relation to Eureka soloing and how they say "Yeah you can do it." because it's horribly obnoxious and favors one class over others.

In fact, when I was doing Eureka solo as RDM I started to get that strong PotD feeling from soloing upwards of 180 where you feel this horrendous anxiety where "I need to keep up pace! There's a timer on me! Need to keep up pace!" and IMMEDIATELY had to stop because PotD solo is one of the most anxiety inducing experiences especially when you are getting so close to success. Eureka solo is awful because you can't take it at your own pace and there's nothing to do besides 'the boss' and spam killing mobs with that gut wrenching sensation of being rushed the whole damn time.

Off subject, PotD solo needs some kinda change to it, but I'm very certain that they won't bother and that upsets me because I want that damn title.

[Reynhart]

That's what Reyhart was probably talking about (minus the fashion report thing) while potd has been promoted as solo achievable even in the lower floors it really wasn't

The second part of that question is how long it takes for someone to clear PotD solo compared to a team. Because, in the end gaining Xp in Eureka on your own is doable, it just takes much much more time.

And apart from Xp, you can gathr crystals out of a group...it just happen that other groups are simply doing the same content at the same time.