What's your first impression of Eureka?

[Vstarstruck]

You clearly misunderstood me, and I did play FINAL FANTASY XI. Grinding for the Eureka gear is similar to grinding for a relic in terms of actually playing the game, which involves killing a lot of the same thing while hoping for specific drops. You're correct in that relic and mythic weapons were worth their weight in gold for years, but that doesn't help any of your other points. Maybe be nicer in the future, too.

No it is not the same, if you think old Dynamis is the same as this diadem 3.0 and you claim you play ffxi, I question how good your memory is. First off you had to approach each city differently, sometimes you had to approach different NMs differently, Some need sac pulling, some low man groups took 2 or 3 blms and solo statues as they slept stuff, call outs, stun rotations on scrops, make sure the avatar stays slept or be one shoted. DO NOT DARE compare this mindless zerfest to Dynamis, they are very very different. A long grind for something does not make the play experience of the 2 the same.

Also Fyi the grind is still different, you still got gear as drops, you did not "grind" long for gear. The weapon took a long time, not gear.

You clearly misunderstood me, and I did play FINAL FANTASY XI. Grinding for the Eureka gear is similar to grinding for a relic in terms of actually playing the game, which involves killing a lot of the same thing while hoping for specific drops. You're correct in that relic and mythic weapons were worth their weight in gold for years, but that doesn't help any of your other points. Maybe be nicer in the future, too.

clearly you remember the experience wrong if you think they are the same.

I think you meant item level 355, but it's very worth it for people who don't raid. Other than that, I think you have a good point.

i345* weapon and i350 for armor, both armor and weapon are outdated on release. At release people had unlimited easy access to 350 armor, one job to have a 360 weapon (causal play) while hard core play had a heavy mix of 370 and 360 gear. Releasing gear this low in a huge time gate time sink is no content.

They could done 2.0 relic pages for these without the diadem area and have the same effect while saving 17 months of development. We did not get what we paid for for stormblood.

Edit, as we are limited of how many posts we make, I do not feel replying to the below is worth taking 1 post quota away:

Well aren't you touchy.

I do not like white knights giving false information, and the fact you can't even comment on the points I made speaks wonders. Goes back to this quote:

People that don't like Eureka can't catch a break on this.

If people complain they went in for a bit and hated it, they get told they didn't do enough of it so their feelings to the content are wrong. THEN they go in and bother doing it because they're being pushed that not doing it means they don't know how it is, and now they're getting told because they're doing it they MUST like it.

That's my experience with the wonderful Novice network. "Oh look at all the complaining, but where is everyone? Oh in Eureka" Ya maybe because people keep telling us our opinion on content doesn't matter until we do enough to warrent its own plat trophy on PlayStation...

Do not treat people like that because you accept the smallest things and call it the greatest wonders. Do not chew out people for not accepting so little content just because you are willing to accept and follow anything. Going to your "i345 is good for people that do not raid" is false, there is i350 crafted, i355 ex, i360 (for one job in casual play) If you are going to argue no "hard" content at all, there is 320 crafted and 340 unlimited quick play.

Now lets assume your highest play is expert.. well i320 crafted is still cheap enough and good for expert... no reason for a "non raider" to grind here for i345 weapon, other then glam, and SE should did better with that. I guess you can say I get "touchy" when they misinform the facts for their personal agenda.

I think me being upset for no content after 17 + months of development is warranted. Then on top of things, I think it is valid for me be upset those that want to defend this no content situation acting like we are supposed to like it because it reminds them of FFXI in some twisted way. Diadem 3.0 and ffxi are NOTHING alike outside exp parties in abyssea.