Dev blog: New Feast rewards

[Aviars]

Well, considering you're now comparing placement in a mass-market video game to the Olympics - I think this argument has pretty much run its course. You feel entitled to an ego stroke that lasts forever, I feel entitled to getting my grubby little hands on old rewards long after they're relevant, and ne'er the two views shall meet.

You can cop out if you want, the idea of competition is there. I know it's hard for you to admit you were wrong, but it's whatever. You can literally look at any game with structured PVP and see they work with the same mindset. I just used a more extreme example to make it VERY SIMPLE for you to understand since you seem to be having trouble with the concept.

Why wouldn't I feel entitled to keep my reward exclusive when that was what it was marketed to be? That is the nature of what competing is. If you have a problem with that then you shouldn't be PVPing at all. Why should you be entitled to what other people worked for? you want a participation trophy?

Also also find it funny you ignore the rest of my post and single out one statement to cop out, keep being disingenuous till the end champ!

[Sindele]

I walked away because it's a waste of time to talk to walls. It's not a difficult concept to understand.

Besides, I was more interested in looking up the price of authentic Olympic participation medals. Think Yoshi-P would sell me an old Top 100 mount for $300?

[Aviars]

I walked away because it's a waste of time to talk to walls. It's not a difficult concept to understand.

Besides, I was more interested in looking up the price of authentic Olympic participation medals. Think Yoshi-P would sell me an old Top 100 mount for $300?

Nah, it's quite clear you have nothing to say and you don't want to admit you were wrong. It's ok

Also I would advise you to not real world trade by getting someone other persons account, because that would be the only way you would be able to get a hellhound mount from a previous season. I wouldn't want to see you get banned for breaking the ToS ;]

[Rieze_Xeero]

The only disingenuous argument here is your repeated claim that because people want to see re-releases outside of the top 100 structure that that means they want it on the GS, the Mog Station, or other similarly trivial methods. Nobody's saying it has to be necessarily easy or immediately available.. except you.

I think this is what everyone else is saying. Thanks Sindele.

[Sigiria]

Ok so:

It does matter when you win and lose games

For a extreme example lets say you lose 200 games at 0 rating and obviously as a result you have 0 rating. Then say you win 75 games in a row and win the average 25 points per game. Wow imagine that, you now have a sub 50% win-rate with a high platinum rating.

Yeah so thank you for validating my point, you sucked for 200 games managed to somehow win less than half of that amount but yeah! you're so skilled to be in the top 100 you did an awesome job to win 75 out of 275 matches while the guy that won 140 out of 275 matches isn't in the top 100 because obviously he's less skilled than you, after all he won 65 more time than you... "Logic!"

you can also say that losses in lower tiers harm your rating less than losses in higher tiers, if you start to get all of your losses in platinum or diamond then you will basically lose your progress when you get a loss compared to gold and lower. This is especially true in the beginning of the season where everyone starts at zero to matchmaking is more volatile.

Also champ. There is no PVP game that limits the amount of games you are allowed to play in a respective season. it would be even more nonsensical to do it in a game mode that starts everyone's ratings at zero, cause then people would want to wait until the ratings settle to make their rating push.

There is a reason why your type of thinking isn't utilized buddy.

Yeah there's isn't, but in one of your other post you used the olympics as an example. have you ever seen any real competition that test skill allow you to cancel out one of your losses by doing more matches?
There's indeed a reason why videogames don't do that... because I know it might be a difficult concept to grasp to someone like you who seems to value your performance in one as some kind of life accomplishement, but it's a "game"
They want as much people to play it as long as possible, if you can either be good or sink enough time in it to crawl to the top then it make perfect sense as a buisness decision, but it got nothing to do with promoting skill.

There's a reason e-sport competitions are in a tournament format and not point based buddy.

So you can argue all you want and shut your ears to anyone else believing you're right and everyone else around you is wrong like any self absorbed person, but the truth is you want your reward for the feeling you get when you see someone feel bad because only you get to have something they would have wanted too. Like a kid in a playground with his expensive toy. If it were just to remember or show other that you ranked a title would suffice.

[Alleo]

I mean its nice for those PVP players but seeing how the Ananta has just a recolor and a badly flying mount (and not glamour) it just annoys me a bit to see such a good looking mount behind a time and number limit. Why not make it just a time limit? When will you start to make it fair and introduce this in a lot of other content? Because right now if you do the hardest content in the game the price for it is not limited thus anyone can get it (which its how it should be..have something exclusive for a while and maybe a year later people can get it too). Somehow PVP is special and gets something that is limited in both ways..at the same time there is no rank decay, nothing to stop cheaters or people with alts going at it.

[Nedkel]

Looks more like a HEALER ONLY players rewards for me.

Oh sure go ahead explain to me why the diamond guy that got 354 victory over 751 matches is more skilled than the diamond guy 153 victory over 225 matches. because that's how this system work.

You can rank with a winrate under 50% meaning you lost more than half of your matches. Just because you had more time to sink into it which is my point.

That's plain stupid, if you want to bring up skill then everyone should have the same number of matches.

Individual skill doesnt matter if the game is so incredibly unbalanced.

[Iceboy]

The best will still be the best anyway, you can look at top 100 and there will be people who clearly don't deserve it, and got there because of lucky match making.

The problem is, feast doesn't have enough player base for rating to be really something to be relayed on.

Last season I missed top 100 by 12 points, and you know what? I didn't even got so mad for losing an armor I wanted so bad, just made me realize I can push further next season to earn my prize.

I think that's the problem with FF community, it feels like people are allergic to making effort.

I'm not the best, I'm average if anything, but still, almost made it to the top which people say it's impossible to get. It only takes you a little bit of effort to actually learn the mode, your job, and map awareness. I can say it's not that hard, and honestly? Pvp is quite fun and not all "urr durr elitists" or wintrading.

Tl;dr try playing a full season and really commit to learning before saying it's impossible.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Well it's a top 100 prize, not everything should be free for all, unfortunately. People spend months working on their rankings for these rewards, so it's only right that they have a nice prize - otherwise no-one would do it

See, I might agree if this applied to other content. Savage mounts aren't exclusive, and become easier the longer you wait. Basically, they do this not to reward PvPers but to desperately beg people to play PvP.

[Commander_Justitia]

If you don't need to compete to get the reward, why should I compete? Players always pick the easiest method to obtain something, why shouldn't they...

PvP means Player vs Player, this is not intended to get magically easier over time with the next addon or new levelcap.
That's why PvP rewards keep their value, PvE rewards not.

There are a shitton of promotional/preorder items that are not on mogshop and not purchasable anymore & codes invalid. Do you see me babyraging about them as if some stranger stole my goodies? It's just some huge chair mount, you don't need it for your erp and khloe unsync weeklys, so nt&bb.