Quote Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI View Post
Because of "I'm familiar with. . ." and "my experience told me otherwise. . ."
And how do you exactly gather from there that I've been the one bullied all this time? If I see someone being a douche to another someone I don't like it either, and I acknowledge it. I don't go by the "as long as it doesn't happen to me it's fine" philosophy.

Quote Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI View Post
Doing what you want isn't how team-based content works.
In static groups and PF parties, it's only natural that people expect a minimum, in the rest of the content however, the phrase I quoted from you literally gives you free hand to call out every little thing you may not like from anyone you come across. Quite dangerous to go by that.


Quote Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI View Post
I don't think it's you personally, and I don't care about FFLogs one bit; that honestly holds no weight in the discussion here. But don't try to use your annecdotal experience to justify others not doing what would generally be considered reasonable, baseline play in sub-Savage content. Don't reach for excuses and far-reaching logic behind why anyone may or may not be playing to par. Yes, new is new, and some people just aren't good at some things. But it doesn't, and shouldn't end there. Saying the general playerbase needs to improve really touches upon the fact that even though the game may perhaps not require players to do better, there seems to be a lacking sense of desire for self-improvement. Just because you're not good or not at a higher level doesn't mean you should or have to stay there. And I'm not aiming this at just you, but anyone who's chimed in with the "people are going to do what they want/not everyone plays on the same level" bit.

No, not everyone does. But if they're not even playing to the baseline, then yes, at or by level 70, they need to be there, plain and simple. And it's NOT impossible to do. Doing what you want isn't how team-based content works. Let's establish that now, and let that crap logic be laid to rest in this discussion once and for all. The moment there's one more person in a party besides you, it's not about doing it your way anymore, and no amount of self-confident declaration is going to justify that.
And how do you plan on solving the "lack of desire for self-improvement", that's a pretty complicated thing to do. What else can you do other than making stuff harder? SE already did that with HW and Gordias, and it literally set the worst FFXIV precedent after the 1.0 fiasco. Why do you think they've made SB significantly easier, and why do you think a lot more people are playing now than they did in HW? Hell, you are literally asking them to do what made them lose more subs in the first place?
They've put share markers, they've made an eye of the size of an elephant appear when you have to look away from the target, they are certainly doing things to encourage people follow mechanics and make the game less confusing, but ultimately it's up to people.
Again, I don't see as much of a problem as you obviously do here.