The general player base needs to improve

[Vahlnir]

What quantum leap? I healed Shin and Rab at launch, and I went into them probably 30 times or so in two weeks at the patch start. I saw a tremendous amount of vote abandons, and a lot of them took 45 minutes from all the deaths. And what's the point of making expert easier or even equal to both of those, since we already had them and they didn't seem to achieve the goals people want. Making expert a tiny bit harder wont really help.



Not really. it was painful to do for quite a long time, because many people only did it the one time they needed. the only way you get comfortable is by doing it repeatedly often enough to knwo it by rote. Its just those that didn't could lie on the floor as dps because it had no real dps checks.

First and 2nd week of Rabanastre for me wasn't that bad. Heck, the very first run I got into when I logged on the day of the patch went flawlessly...and that was with a ton of new people, as there always is on patch day. Yeah, a few runs after that were kinda ugly, but what do you honestly expect on day or even week 1 of a patch? Perfection? By week 2 a lot of people had things down, but there were still just as many still learning. I saw a vote abandon here and there, but none of them ever actually stuck. Think I only ever ended up leaving 1 or 2 groups in total. So...it's really not as bad as you seem to think. Everyone's experience is different though, I just don't see the things you claim to see as often as you would say they happen. Maybe you just have bad luck. Random 24 people gonna be random.

[RiyahArp]

First and 2nd week of Rabanastre for me wasn't that bad.

Nah, you really can't say stuff when all you do it is once per week. You have to see a lot of people try it, and believe me, it is a lot uglier when its all skill levels and not just the people who show up first thing on reset day.

[Vahlnir]

Nah, you really can't say stuff when all you do it is once per week. You have to see a lot of people try it, and believe me, it is a lot uglier when its all skill levels and not just the people who show up first thing on reset day.

I ran it quite a few times, I can assure you. I wanted my SAM glamour pretty bad and the RNGesus wasn't too kind.