Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
You have a fair shot. The same shot everyone else has: Create a party that suits your needs and playstyle.
You're suggestion is aimed at "bribing" people who have already cleared that content into doing it again for a new person. When you could instead look at people like you, who havent cleared the content yet.

I'll be so honest and admit that my experience with PF for Savage is minimal because I spend time networking and dont rely on PF at all for those fights at all. I've always joined various PFs for both EX-primals and Savage to help out when I felt like it - fairly often, aswell I reckon.
You can do most of the content in this game without networking - I already explained why Savage isnt part of that and why that is a good thing (or rather: a thing thats required to make the content as difficult as it is).

I am again sorry that you had such a bad experience with PF, but honestly: I dont think your suggestion would fix that. It might become a little bit easier to get your first time clear in, but every clear after that, you have nothing to offer and are stuck with queues and PF again. And even if you dont have a bonus anymore, people might remove you from their groups after you made a stupid mistake (yes, sorry, failing the first mechanic in a fight is stupid - mistakes happen, ofc, and we should all be a bit more tolerant about them but I'll admit myself that I'm... not happy when people fail the first mechanics of a fight. Wont outright kick them, but its a strike and I start questioning how well they know the fight.)

As far as I'm concerned your answer here is: Networking. Going into those fighst with people you know. Pugging might be technically possible, but surely isnt the prefered way.



We did not ask to be toxic.
I understand why it might look that way to you, because of your angle. Let me share mine aswell, okay?
It applies a bit more to farmign EX-primals, but might aswell to getting in quick clears for the easier Savage-fights like O5S and O6S.
Let me say right away that I like to think of myself as a helpful person - I'll join Learning and Clear PFs for EX-Primals and Savage fights whenever I have the time for that and am in the right mood (happens often enough - I dont even want to count the amount of Shinryu EX parties I joined to help out, even after getting my clear and having 50 tokens in my inventory...).
But sometimes, I'm not. Sometimes, I'm in the mood to have easy, smooth farms. Or, just like you, I only have 2 hours to play and would like to get O5S and O6S done in that time. All of that is highly unlikely to happen with a new person in the party.
I'm up for teaching when I have the time for that. Thats not always the case - sometimes I just have the time to get my own clears in, given its a decent group, which is what I wanna make sure of.
Can a new person perform well? Sure - and if a bonus-person asks "Hey, I know the whole fight, seen enrage, just need the kill, is it cool for me to stay?" that is cool with me. Person gets two shots and if they prove themself, no problem!
But way, way to often you see people who dont have a clue, essentially wasting the time of 7 people who know the fight inside out and just want to kill it quickly. And that sucks. And that shouldnt happen in the first place.
Before we had the message and the option to lock out bonus-people from our parties, I saw way, way to many farm-parties disband because someone thought "Know the fight" didnt apply to them and sneaked in without knowledge. It was rude and bloody annoying.

We did not ask to be toxic.
We asked for an option to make sure we have a good experience with the game, too. And our good experience might very well be not to teach every fight over and over again all the time, but prioritise our own progression, together with other people who share that goal.


Before reading this post I agreed with the OP that extra loot would incentivize people to help out randoms. Now, my mind is changed. Well played