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  1. #111
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    Rockette's Avatar
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    Rocket Teira
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    Behemoth
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by HaroldSaxon View Post
    How about this one:

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post3576473

    I take it he's still looking into it because nothing was done about it and the player carried on playing until... he got banned for toxic behaviour.

    What about the Ruin 4 hackers? What about the Pomander exploiter?

    Square Enix have had a history of not punishing cheaters.
    Probably not an issue in Japanese servers therefore these exploits don't exist.
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  2. #112
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    Movespeed Yoshida'why
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    Gilgamesh
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by lakukisu View Post
    Hello everyone!

    Yoshida-san has commented on the Ungarmax bug and about the emergency maintenance.

    Best,
    Lakukisu
    I heard about the bug last night and tried using it once in a dungeon to confirm whether it was real or not before opening the support desk to report it, but I couldn't get the support desk to open. Worried if this post means I'm at risk but surely there will be a separation for people who abused the glitch?

    I heard a rumor that there's a way to get Ungarnax to cast with a specific class now, and I can't test it myself but I've already opened the support desk and reported that just in case.
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  3. #113
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    Dr Ray
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    Famfrit
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    I wonder if any world or server firsts were accomplished with this exploit. Will be interesting to see if any notable heads roll...
    I doubt it.

    Someone mentioned the mass Salvage ban in FF11. The game never fully recovered from that. Most all those players never came back. SE must have realized they just took a bite out of the hand that feeds them.
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  4. #114
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    Purple Rain
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    Sophia
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    Arcanist Lv 32
    Quote Originally Posted by raerae View Post
    I heard about the bug last night and tried using it once in a dungeon to confirm whether it was real or not before opening the support desk to report it, but I couldn't get the support desk to open. Worried if this post means I'm at risk but surely there will be a separation for people who abused the glitch?
    How did you not abuse the glich in your opinion, if you were intentionally using it in game content?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobs View Post
    Someone mentioned the mass Salvage ban in FF11. The game never fully recovered from that. Most all those players never came back.
    Funnily enough, that game is still running now, almost 10 years later.
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  5. #115
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    Everill Lannis
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    Garuda
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    Culinarian Lv 35
    Quote Originally Posted by Ametrine View Post
    The best example I can give are how PVP players use every chance we have to point out the botting abuses utterly destroying the modes, but it's not an issue at all on JP servers. Conclusions are drawn.
    Actually, PvP cheats are often reported on JP servers too, but nothing is ever done.
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  6. #116
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Jenova
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    I'm glad to see the response from the development team. And as a software developer myself, I can attest to the fact that sometimes you get requests and there's a mention of "this has been going on for months" and when you ask them they say "I posted about it on <this thing the developers have no access to> but it never went anywhere". And it is often something that I'm like WHAT THE FUCK and fix immediately once I know about it. I can completely empathize. Someone either purposefully suppressed this or badly mismanaged the communication. Unfortunately, those people don't always face any sort of consequences either from position or influence in the company. So the circle repeats itself.
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  7. #117
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
    Funnily enough, that game is still running now, almost 10 years later.
    It does not have as many players as it did, or could have sustain for a longer time. That was my point. Punishing a player for a developers bad coding is not how to do it; most companies have figured that out by now.

    This isn't even a 3rd party program issue; it's a straight up bad code issue. I would be surprise if anyone is punished.

    Add: It does throw a wrench into the whole "I'm bad ass for doing raids" group. Like sure you all are.
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    Last edited by Bobs; 03-01-2018 at 02:02 AM.

  8. #118
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    Movespeed Yoshida'why
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
    How did you not abuse the glich in your opinion, if you were intentionally using it in game content?
    I only heard it as a rumour so I gave it a try near the end of the final boss in my morning expert with three friends before work, to see for myself before wasting time with a dud bug report. Should I have filed a bug report without even knowing if it exists?
    The use was intentional, but unknowing. The intent was to verify that reporting it as a bug wouldn't be a goose chase to the GMs handling it.
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    Last edited by raerae; 03-01-2018 at 02:10 AM.

  9. #119
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    Komi Shouko
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    Zodiark
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
    How did you not abuse the glich in your opinion, if you were intentionally using it in game content?
    She said she wanted to see whether it was true or not then report if it was the case. You can't just report a glitch based on a forum post or a reddit post.
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  10. #120
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    Narm Tamaraith
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    Gilgamesh
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    Conjurer Lv 63
    What is actually amusing is the players that preach and get pissed off about ban hammers when they were using something they knew was cheating. Yoshi should ban them all every time.
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