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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    We have proof it wouldn't. One of the contributing factors to the raid community's demise back during Gordias and Midas was the lack of cross-world PF. .
    No, the issue that this was there to address is that people simply do not like to raid in this game, at all. Cross world is a bandaid. Even with this easy tier, if you look at PF, at best you find maybe 5 learning parties at a time for the raids, and it's rarely more than 20 sigma raids on primal at all, counting farms and clears. This is across a data center that is rapidly approaching 8k players a server over a dozen or more servers.

    Gordias set the absolute low end floor for that, but niche content in this game struggles to draw people. PvP from HW to now alternated between 72 man matches popping at 5 min intervals to 8 man matches at 30. Even primal farm parties for ponies are relatively underused, and they seem totally dead now; you see old ex primals more for WT.

    I think they are going to need to start working on endgame and make it more of a long term, tiered approach.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiyahArp View Post
    No, the issue that this was there to address is that people simply do not like to raid in this game, at all. Cross world is a bandaid. Even with this easy tier, if you look at PF, at best you find maybe 5 learning parties at a time for the raids, and it's rarely more than 20 sigma raids on primal at all, counting farms and clears. This is across a data center that is rapidly approaching 8k players a server over a dozen or more servers.

    Gordias set the absolute low end floor for that, but niche content in this game struggles to draw people. PvP from HW to now alternated between 72 man matches popping at 5 min intervals to 8 man matches at 30. Even primal farm parties for ponies are relatively underused, and they seem totally dead now; you see old ex primals more for WT.

    I think they are going to need to start working on endgame and make it more of a long term, tiered approach.
    No, it wasn't. Cross World PF was implemented for the precise reasons I said. Many small pop servers were basically at a point where merging them needed strong consideration. Cross world largely alleviated that issue. Raiding is no less popular than crafting, gathering, PvP and the host of other niche activity the game provides. The entire purpose behind a theme park MMO is "something for everyone." Nothing except the basic progression will ever stand out because it isn't designed to. You cannot take one piece of the proverbial pie and compare it to everything else.

    I cannot speak about Primal as I lack a character there, but Aether "High-End Duty_ tab frequently ranges from 40-70 parties, especially at prime hours. Of course pony farms will be less common. Not only is it four year old content, it's incredibly easy to solo. I saw plenty back in Heavensward and now see a fair few Birb farms.

    Now I do agree longer lasting content may be something they needs considering going forward, but chances are if it's progression related. The highest level, in this hypothetical scenario, would be locked behind Savage.
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    Last edited by Bourne_Endeavor; 02-15-2018 at 02:39 AM.