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    Fynlar Eira
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    Why? SE ultimately doesn't have any reason to care if people can't speedrun this for levelling other jobs. There are lots of other roulettes and methods of doing that. The purpose of this one is to get sprouts through the MSQ. So long as it accomplishes that, there's no reason for them to change anything.
    If people can't have a satisfactory experience playing the MSQ roulette, guess what happens? People will stop queueing that roulette.

    Care to explain how the sprouts will DF those MSQ roulette dungeons once no one bothers doing the roulette anymore?
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    Auriana Redsteele
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    If people can't have a satisfactory experience playing the MSQ roulette, guess what happens? People will stop queueing that roulette.

    Care to explain how the sprouts will DF those MSQ roulette dungeons once no one bothers doing the roulette anymore?
    Some people will keep doing the MSQ roulette even with forced cutscenes. Fewer than before to be certain, but it won't be the case that "no one bothers" running it.

    If enough people will keep doing the MSQ roulette that new people can run Castrum/Praetorium without excessive queue times - THAT is the interesting question, and one we don't know the answer to quite yet.
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    Cecelia Stormfeather
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fynlar View Post
    If people can't have a satisfactory experience playing the MSQ roulette, guess what happens? People will stop queueing that roulette.

    Care to explain how the sprouts will DF those MSQ roulette dungeons once no one bothers doing the roulette anymore?
    Patch has been out nearly two weeks now. Still waiting for it to happen. Until it does, it's working as intended. At some point, you need to stop predicting doom and show that there's a real problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tridus View Post
    Patch has been out nearly two weeks now. Still waiting for it to happen. Until it does, it's working as intended. At some point, you need to stop predicting doom and show that there's a real problem.
    They're upping the awards on the roulette. I'd say we got our proof.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    They're upping the awards on the roulette. I'd say we got our proof.
    Not really. That could also show they're sick of listening to people complain about it and are throwing some candy out to make the complaints go away. We don't know what they're adding, it could just be more XP to make the time you spend in there productive on par with other roulettes.

    People are still predicting massive queue times where newbies can't get it done, and that hasn't happened. At this point, predictions don't mean anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tridus View Post
    Not really. That could also show they're sick of listening to people complain about it and are throwing some candy out to make the complaints go away..
    People have complained longer and harder about much more crucial things that haven't been changed. Also you can't really say 'queue times haven't seen a hit' when you only have your own personal experience while SE has all the numbers.
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    They're upping the awards on the roulette. I'd say we got our proof.
    I hope it's something meaningful. A significant chunk of the most relevant tomes, for instance as well a high chance of receiving the orchestrion rolls for the tracks that play in each dungeon that have yet to be added. Given that most of the run is likely to be spent tabbing out and waiting for the cutscenes to advance I'm not entirely opposed to queuing up but my time is valuable.

    If they really wanted to go all out they could add new stuff over time. Gaius, Livia and Ultima Weapon minions, perhaps?
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