Please Reconsider MSQ Changes

[BillyKaplan]

Additionally the MSQ roulette should count for the newest tank mount achievements. This could speed up the queue times a bit.

Only if it'll give you two ticks for the achiev because you can easily run 2 other instances that count for the same amount of time spent in there. Maybe more depending on content and how capable your party is. For instance, you could probably run 3, maybe even 4 Susano or Lakshmi ex runs for the same amount of time.

[Derio]

The XP increase would have to be double of what it is now for me to go back in there. Also more gil would be required as well for me to go back.

The MSQ roulette is just nothing but spamming button to get through cutscene after cutscene when they should have just made it 2 solo instances.

[Laerune]

I dont think more experience points will be enough, in the end everyone will reach max level with their class. A better solution would be to add the newest tomestones and both gathering and crafting scrips. If SE finds this to much, then add a new currency that players can trade in for minions, mounts, glamour, newest tomes, gathering and crafting scrips.

This way there will always be an incentive to do this roulette. I only have Ninja left as battle class, the moment she reaches level 70, I will stop doing the MSQ. To lure players like myself, SE needs to add stuff that we want.

[Vstarstruck]

I'd say it's pretty sad that someone was disappointed and trepidatious that they had to watch a story in this story driven game.

I find pretty sad someone is being insulting over someone's personality. I got a news flash for you. Some people play the game to only play the game. There is no warning before buying the game "the game forces a story down your throat and may not be for you" You want to have the biggest sales you try not to exclude a group, and the people that play games to play them is much bigger then people carrying about a story. Even JaakRoot said "btw, I find it quite stupid design to have MSQ block your progression" I find it odd you try act others act rude and insulting when the only person that fits that is you. Again that sig statement of yours fits you well, I am sure you are told kettle black often.

I personally hate going through another medium to watch back the story. It can become messy and it doesn't feel right as you kinda already did it and lose the first time experience. I was happy with the cutscene directly from while playing the game but what I also hated was that the bosses were down in a matter of seconds without even having time to go through some sort of final forms like in every FF game final bosses. Probably because the 2 vets had 70 lvl gear and the sync gear function is not strong enough ... I mean the vets tank has like 10 K HP and I barely got 5 K with the gear from the job quest which is lvl 50.

Yeah you did not get what I was asking. There is 2 different ways to approach and clear these 2 dungeons and 3 methods to view the CS. You said you where glad for the change, the change took out a diolog option that is no longer view able in the inn, making a premade party to undersize/unsyc, and the main roulette. The reason I bought the idea of selfish is, from you basically saying you like the change in full. I have issues with this, esp if your friend is lv 60+, or know someone that is 70, you 3 or 2 can make a party and complete it that way. This is called undersize and being a small group you can easily go at your own pace. Given you have this option, why should the public channel be forced to please a select few when this option exists? I was not really asking if you like going though another medium or not, I was asking how you feel with them just making this blanket change across everything, since again you said you completely agree with the change in full.

With this change, even those that want to skip CS, like Anarnee bought up just now, along with posters of the past in this thread, even if they make a premade party to unsync it (non-public group) the game still forces them to watch the CS. To me you still do not understand the undersize function and I believe a first step could make that option more clear to the new player base not this forcing this change on everyone. The reason I say this is because I seen a few runs where a new person and someone that is able to run the new person though it undersize was attempting to hold the group hostage and not click though the dialogue, we had to kick them. (The high level friend was on a healer and was attempting the "I will not heal you guys till we watch the CS)

For the vote thing, please stop pressing for that, it won't work. People will just start drama about trolling or something and/or simply leave if they have to watch CS. The BEST way of dealing with this while maintaining that idea in spirit is making 2 roulettes, with different rewards, one with CS and one without. That is the only way you do not exclude people.

[Skivvy]

The reason I bought the idea of selfish is, from you basically saying you like the change in full. I have issues with this, esp if your friend is lv 60+, or know someone that is 70, you 3 or 2 can make a party and complete it that way. This is called undersize and being a small group you can easily go at your own pace. Given you have this option, why should the public channel be forced to please a select few when this option exists?

To me you still do not understand the undersize function and I believe a first step could make that option more clear to the new player base not this forcing this change on everyone.

MSQ roulette was designed to move sprouts through content. The MSQ specifically tells players that "such and such dungeon/trial is now available through Duty Finder". You keep implying that the sprouts are the selfish ones for running this through DF when PF is available, but this is how the game is set up.

If 'selfish' reasons are taken out, the only concern that any of us should have about this change is whether or not this will increase the queue times significantly, and therefore not let new players make it through the MSQ easily.

Yes, mandatory CSs need to be disabled in PF so that those who do not want to deal with the story can skip it. I think most everyone is at least in agreement about this part.

[Vstarstruck]

MSQ roulette was designed to move sprouts through content. The MSQ specifically tells players that "such and such dungeon/trial is now available through Duty Finder". You keep implying that the sprouts are the selfish ones for running this through DF when PF is available, but this is how the game is set up.

If 'selfish' reasons are taken out, the only concern that any of us should have about this change is whether or not this will increase the queue times significantly, and therefore not let new players make it through the MSQ easily.

Yes, mandatory CSs need to be disabled in PF so that those who do not want to deal with the story can skip it. I think most everyone is at least in agreement about this part.

might need touch up the post, but not just that but the inn too, and put back that dialogue option, I am shocked more story goes are not bringing the torches on that. I still think it should not be exclude those that want to use it to level up jobs, like having 2 different roulette or something but whatever i guess.

[Skivvy]

might need touch up the post, but not just that but the inn too, and put back that dialogue option, I am shocked more story goes are not bringing the torches on that. I still think it should not be exclude those that want to use it to level up jobs, like having 2 different roulette or something but whatever i guess.

By the dialogue..do you mean the auto-advancement? If so, I'd say that's a necessary evil, otherwise groups could be held hostage. If not what you mean, not sure then as I've always skipped all MSQ :X

[Vstarstruck]

By the dialogue..do you mean the auto-advancement? If so, I'd say that's a necessary evil, otherwise groups could be held hostage. If not what you mean, not sure then as I've always skipped all MSQ :X

There is a dialogue pop up, they can still give you 5 seconds to pick or something, if not it picks something for you. They took it out of the game completely, and do not even get it in the inn, complete BS they make a blanket change like this. So it was clearly not well thought out and made in haste blanketing PF/undersize and the inn.

[Skivvy]

There is a dialogue pop up, they can still give you 5 seconds to pick or something, if not it picks something for you. They took it out of the game completely, and do not even get it in the inn, complete BS they make a blanket change like this. So it was clearly not well thought out and made in haste blanketing PF/undersize and the inn.

Ahh, I imagine at most this probably just changes a line or two of dialogue.. I know when I pick the "wrong" choice in quests, they normally spout off real fast about why I'm wrong, then prompts me to try again. These prompts could definitely be used to troll the other players in the Roulette, so I can see why they'd take them out.

With that said, a short timer on any prompts could have been a decent solution. However, for my own needs, I appreciate having to input absolutely nothing while I'm tabbed out waiting for the CS to pass

[geekgirl101]

I'm avoiding Main Scenario queues now simply because of this change. 5-10 mins of actual fighting with new players still unable to keep up to fight the bosses, 1 hour of cutscenes. I don't care about the increased reward, this is total garbage and solves nothing! I don't even want to do them on my lower level characters that could benefit from the xp.