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    Miste's Avatar
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    Miste Vaer
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaldeaSahaline View Post
    I mean, I've never done St. Mociannes Arboretum. I would bet money it's probably a pretty easy dungeon.
    This is moving the goalpost again. Savage/Ultimate =/= Casual dungeon. You're trying to strawman my point.

    That kind of comment is why I think you don't understand my point. That's like taking a real life task like learning how to wash your hair with shampoo versus something objectively much harder to learn like open heart surgery, and no I am not using that as a direct comparison to the difficulty gap in the game, it is simply an example to show you are using an extreme low end against my point which was talking about higher end.

    Learning Casual content in this game isn't hard because it is made that way by the devs. Savage and ultimate on the other hand is objectively made to be more difficult by the devs than a normal dungeon. Yes, everyone has subjective opinions as well, but I am quite confidant most people would agree a normal dungeon is easier than savage/ultimate since it is designed that way no matter how skilled you are at the game.

    I never said you should jump to conclusions based on only the psychology so I don't know where you got that from. Also just because you know the psychology behind the behavior doesn't mean you are offended by it. A part of a healthy discussion is also not assuming people are offended by everything simply due to what argument points they are trying to use to explain their point of view.

    Quote Originally Posted by KaldeaSahaline View Post
    Bob's may not have the credentials you require to discuss these things, but surely my raiding career and experience has to afford me some semblance of qualification right?

    but I am hoping me citing my experience forces you (note: Not you specifically, the royal you, as in the community at large) to at least discuss the point with me.
    Okay....? But you're not Bobs and Bobs doesn't have your credentials. So you aren't making any sense at this point. All of what I said was directed at Bobs due to what he has posted, not you, not anyone else. You seem to think I've made a generalization? If I said something that made you misunderstand then I didn't do it intentionally so now you know.

    I never said anything about your experience, remember? He doesn't have the experience you have. So...its like you are just stepping in front of him with a shield and like "ok he doesn't have any credentials, but I do, so fight me instead". But...like what point is there in that? I have no issue with anything you've posted.

    I don't see any point to any of this...you seem to be turning it into being about you when its not.
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    Last edited by Miste; 02-09-2018 at 12:42 PM.