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    Quote Originally Posted by Vstarstruck View Post
    This is how I read your post:
    "Everything has down sides so it makes it ok and we should accept the shortcomings of a system no matter how big"

    I do not think so, There is no reason games in the late 90's and early 00's should be outperforming a modern game in its second expansion in 2018.
    This system is downright unacceptable with the money we give them. They do not put enough money back in the game, that is why we have this nonsense.
    It seems you've misunderstood me then. I was pointing out that other "current" games are still having similar problems but in different areas.
    The system has shortcomings, we should ask to have them corrected. Limited space, limited plates and limiting areas for implementation, inability to directly apply to certain NPC's we control. Most of these have promises to be fixed. I hope SE follows through on those.
    However for this game it is working and it isn't a bad system once you've learned it.
    I'm not sure what you mean by outperforming, but FFXIV is one of the prettiest games I have played and I keep coming back to it for the world they've created. Aesthetically and technically I enjoy all the characters and locales. Story wise I care about most of the NPC's I've been introduced to and I enjoy the gameplay (IMPORTANT) as well. These are the most important things to me. This is what I PAY for and what I expect to be payed attention to when I play a RPG.
    You're constantly harping on how this one system , that works well even if it's a little complex and not as robust as it needs to be for everyone, should catch up and we need to raise torches and crucify them because goshdarnit we are paying for this stuff and this is UNACCEPTABLE! (oh god I hate that word. 16 years in customer service made me HAAAATE that word).
    I disagree. Wholeheartedly I disagree.
    I've been playing this game for 8 years and slowly but surely they have been improving it.
    There have been failures (1.0, diadem) and badly implemented ideas (abuseable limited housing) . But I'm not seeing the irredeemable part of this particular addition and nothing you have said has even made me think twice.
    If anything, actually getting hands on it has assuaged many fears I DID have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    It seems you've misunderstood me then. I was pointing out that other "current" games are still having similar problems but in different areas.
    The system has shortcomings, we should ask to have them corrected. Limited space, limited plates and limiting areas for implementation, inability to directly apply to certain NPC's we control. Most of these have promises to be fixed..
    where?

    All i keep hearing is "server limitations" so sorry of being skeptical when they let us down time and time again. This is the second expansion, a modern game? I stand what I said, unacceptable, I do not care if you hate the word. I guess it may be a good idea to advise you not to play bravery default.

    Speaking of, this relays my feelings nicely:
    https://youtu.be/Wk_QyPykxZA

    If this was 2.0, i would be on your side, this is 4.2 though, on a modern game, 2018, times change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vstarstruck View Post
    where?

    All i keep hearing is "server limitations" so sorry of being skeptical when they let us down time and time again. This is the second expansion, a modern game? I stand what I said, unacceptable, I do not care if you hate the word. I guess it may be a good idea to advise you not to play bravery default.

    Speaking of, this relays my feelings nicely:
    https://youtu.be/Wk_QyPykxZA

    If this was 2.0, i would be on your side, this is 4.2 though, on a modern game, 2018, times change.
    I gotta laugh at that one,yes I played Bravely Default and I HATED that character for always saying that word. Like a whiny customer.

    Times do change, new systems have to be introduced and iterated. This looks like the beginning of something much more workable than the "here use your inventory to manage something that only needs to track appearance" system we have presently.
    They've said as much in their liveletters and in interviews that they want to later have these systems useable on NPCS and that depending on information gathered they're hopeful it can be expanded.
    Would you rather they kept this to themselves till it was absolutely polished? Give us the finished one MONTHS from now and even then untested on an active player base and possibly buggy as hell?

    ..or you can be grateful we get to play with it now and mitigate some clutter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    Would you rather they kept this to themselves till it was absolutely polished? Give us the finished one MONTHS from now and even then untested on an active player base and possibly buggy as hell?

    ..or you can be grateful we get to play with it now and mitigate some clutter.
    yeah the system isn't perfect, but it's already an improvement in some ways. people sure are complaining a lot about something they didn't know about a month ago lol.

    honestly, even if it met the expectations people have now I'm sure people would find a reason to complain about it.
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