So glamour plates are dumber than anticipated...

[Kogekigami]

unfortunately no class restrictions apply but it does allow classes that share gear (tanks, healers ,casters the sorts) to have sepurate glams for each class so in theory you can have the summoner artifact gear glammed on your summoner the red mage artifact gear on your red mage and the black mage artifact gear on your black mage. while they all share the same gear.

I havn't checked yet if you have to be in a city state to apply it or if once you set the plate it saves

[Bourne_Endeavor]

You know what? I'm willing to accept the whole destroyed item aspect if the following concessions are made:

- Mirage plates are doubled, if not tripled.
- Mogstation items can be stored in the Armoire.

I would also prefer if certain dyes could remain persistent when stored or something so we wouldn't lose rare ones on stuff in the Armoire but the above two are far more of an issue. Granted, the latter could be solved if this system acted like an overlay on top of the existing prism based system in lieu of deleting your previous glamour entirely.

People wanted a way to have different glamour for every combat and crafting job and this doesn't give you enough plates to do that. Maybe it will someday, but right now that's not what this system does. However, it does let you cast the same glamours over and over freely, which allows you to change your glamour more often and possibly keep your glamour intact when you upgrade your gear. Also, you can glamour the entire contents of your armoire with no prisms required or anything having to be flushed into the toilet forever, so if you want to dress up in seasonal event gear for various events you can easily throw some on a plate and freely glamour it on.

With the consolidated prisms and how easily obtainable they are now, anything that doesn't address actually issues like jobs being unable to have unique looks is fundamentally pointless. I have over 500 prisms. I can change my glamour on the fly hundreds of times before that stock pile depletes. And considering how little use FC seals generally have, I'll replenish it long before running out. Basically, the dresser barely does enough to warrant its existence. SE needs to stop releasing beta tests unless they specifically mention the system isn't finished. We've had numerous examples were things rotted due to them implementing something prior to it functioning properly, only for them to desperately try to renew our interest later. Complaints are entirely deserved because right now, the dresser has too many negatives to outweigh the few decent positives.

[Hasrat]

The one feature this thing really needs above all else is the ability to sort/filter items by job/restriction.

[Sida]

After taking in how the new glamour system works, and trying to figure out the reasonings for certain decisions, I think as it is now, there is 2 things that is required to make it usable (not perfect, as we would like, but at least usable).

1. Ability to include an inventory item to a plate. It could take a prism every time you save a plate, it would actually cost just the same as clamouring a job gear was before, now you just glamour the plate.

2. Have exactly as many glamour plates as there is gearsets. Currently we have as many gearsets as there is jobs + some amount, 10 I think.


The former change shouldn't really strain the system any more than it currently is. People would still store majority of hard to get gear in retainers, and use them on glamour plates when they will. That way the limited glaour store could be used as sort of "favourite" list, to some amount reasoning the limited space. The latter change would add some strain but would actually make the system usable. Oh, and of course, ability to use plates everywhere. I'm ok with the creation of them restricted to piece of furniture. But they should be possible to apply every time you can switch gearset/job.

Edit. Oh, and 3. Thing, ability to add "clear glamour" to any spot in any plate. That would give flexibility to either create a plate that totally clears your glamour, or use it to just some spots to bring out the current real look of the gear in certain plates. With that too I think it would be ok if it ate dispel prisms when that plate was saved, as my suggestion to be able to use inventory items for plate would use up glamour prisms.

[Bongaboi]

At long last, I have already set up my plates after the maint has been done. It's a sea change. My Faire Joi lost its Pastel Pink dye after I placed it in the armoire for the glamour plates and my Southern Seas Tanga is no longer Pure White. However, I now have templates for Valentione's and Starlight Celebration and my usual glamour gear remains unchanged. Took a ton of prisms but I am now set up. Also, I realized that my Cleric Set can be made into a glamour plate too. I suspect it's because I can regain this from running the antique gear dungeons and exchanging them at Mor Dhona. but since Thyrus is not eligible to be used as a glamour due to it being a relic, I am not going to queue up to add my default WHM worksuit to the 200 slots.

[Hasrat]

but since Thyrus is not eligible to be used as a glamour due to it being a relic, I am not going to queue up to add my default WHM worksuit to the 200 slots.

As a reminder, regarding adding relics to glamour, just go back and purchase replicas. It's what replicas were meant for, purely glamour, and the can actually be added to the dresser.

Took me a minute to think of it; I was silly and tried to add a relic step bought from the Salvager, but no. Even easier/cheaper than that. Buy up all the replicas if you want, or just the steps you liked. They all work.

[Krotoan]

I'm going to stop trying to convince people of it's merits. If you "boycott" the system by not using it you're leaving money on the table. It's free storage and infinite glamouring without using prisms.

There are improvements to be made, yes, but this IS an improvement to me. See y'all in game.

[Sida]

I'm going to stop trying to convince people of it's merits. If you "boycott" the system by not using it you're leaving money on the table. It's free storage and infinite glamouring without using prisms.

There are improvements to be made, yes, but this IS an improvement to me. See y'all in game.

It is not free storage, as the only items that can be put in are essily reacquirable ones, such as salvager items, which wouldn't need storing in the first place for that very same reason. That is why most people who expected it to be free storage are mightily miffed if you call it that.

It has some uses and it does well what it does. But what it is, is free an easy way to use armory items in your glamour. And a possibility to burn items you want to use for glamouring purposes. But that's not storing them as very definition of storing is to "keep something so I can use it later for whichever way I want".

The worst thing is that even the ingame help texts are rather misleading about how it work so people have expectations for it which it doesn't fill and understandably are angry it doesn't deliver what it alludes to.

[Krotoan]

It is not free storage, as the only items that can be put in are essily reacquirable ones, such as salvager items, which wouldn't need storing in the first place for that very same reason. That is why mpeopleost who expected it to be free storage are mightily miffed if you call it that.

What it is, is free an easy way to use armory items in your glamour. And a possibility to burn items you want to use for glamouring purposes. But that's not storing them as very definition of storing is to "keep something so I can use it later for whichever way I want".

Fine, it's a free and available way to open up your CURRENT storage by converting items you are only holding for their appearance into a "log" that is usable for 90% of the userbases glamour needs.

The worst thing is that even the ingame help texts are rather misleading about how it work so people have expectations for it which it doesn't fill and understandably are angry it doesn't deliver what it alludes to.

Example? I'll admit I already knew what it did so I didn't bother to read much of what the "intro" said.

[Sida]

Example? I'll admit I already knew what it did so I didn't bother to read much of what the "intro" said.

I don't have exact quotes from the ingame help texts at hand now but I did re-read to check and they do strongly suggest the plate is something the look is related on, and no where even mention using a plate removed the current glamour of the item. In hindsigt it seems sensible but that's another point which has caused people to rage, loosing the existing glamour while the helps suggest the look is related to the plate, not actually putting it on gear.