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  1. #1
    Player
    Leowilde's Avatar
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    Aegis Corona
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    Phantom
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    Dragoon Lv 88
    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Yes. The new system isn’t separate in the end, it’s essentially a quick method of applying multiple glamours to your current gear.

    That’s also why class restrictions still apply - once the glamour is applied from the plate, it’s just the same as if it was applied manually, with the same rules determining whether it is seen or not.
    Oh thank goodness. I thought it replaced the old.
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    Ruinfeild's Avatar
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    Ruinous Bear
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    Balmung
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    Armorer Lv 90
    I really only have two big problems with it.

    1.) The restriction on some items that can go in. I tested it out with Leonheart and some of of my relic weapons and you can't put them into it which means I have to keep the gear sets on my hotbar. As for the relic, it took my Zeta but not some of the others like Lux which is strange.

    2.) I was REALLY hoping that they would lift some of the class restrictions when it came to this. I can understand weapon since it would just look pure strange but I don't see why I couldn't have my paladin running around in that skin tight black machinist top or something else from another class.

    Maybe it will change in the future if enough people say something but I find it easier to stick with the old system at the moment.

    Edit: Looked at another post and someone said you can use the armoire to help with getting some of those items.
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    Last edited by Ruinfeild; 01-31-2018 at 09:18 AM.

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    Krotoan's Avatar
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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Sargatanas
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ruinfeild View Post

    1.) The restriction on some items that can go in. I tested it out with Leonheart and some of of my relic weapons and you can't put them into it which means I have to keep the gear sets on my hotbar. As for the relic, it took my Zeta but not some of the others like Lux which is strange.
    Because Lux is top tier right now, if they let you put that in, you wouldn't be able to continue the relic weapon. So since people don't read the "OMG THIS IS A REALLY BAD IDEA" prompts.. you just can't.
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

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    Vstarstruck's Avatar
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    Beastmistress Milk
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    Balmung
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    It is as dumb as I expected and people kept telling me "wait for the patch"
    yeah ok

    also needing to go to the inn and not even be able go to your house???

    Also you can't glam from the saddlebag to the dresser or glam from the saddlebag.

    give us a real glam log or more real space.

    I hate needing to go to the inn for this, i cant cast glams the old way since we only got 10 plates as I work on things, it is so infuriating, how do they screw up something so simple this badly?
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    Last edited by Vstarstruck; 01-31-2018 at 10:09 AM.

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    Ghastly's Avatar
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    Ast Eryut
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    Cactuar
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    Warrior Lv 90
    All I want is to wear disciple of hand/land gear..
    I can understand not wearing the regular disciple of war/magic job gear but disciple of land/hand? No one levels those to show off glamour
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    Clover_Blake's Avatar
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    Clover Blake
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    I was very annoyed when I figured out that I couldn't remove the Plate I tested, which meant I lost my previous glamous (which cost me some expensive dyes). I'm trying to think hard of what kind of good use this system might have, but I can't see any. It just destroys items and makes it a bit difficult and troublesome to mix items that you converted with items you didn't convert. I'm personally not going to use it at all, at least at its current state.
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    Krotoan's Avatar
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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clover_Blake View Post
    I was very annoyed when I figured out that I couldn't remove the Plate I tested, which meant I lost my previous glamous (which cost me some expensive dyes). I'm trying to think hard of what kind of good use this system might have, but I can't see any. It just destroys items and makes it a bit difficult and troublesome to mix items that you converted with items you didn't convert. I'm personally not going to use it at all, at least at its current state.
    Say you have a "Look" you like for your main job. But every time you upgrade you have to go get a prism, find your source item, glamour the new thing, then store the source item again. Now you just have a plate for ANY part of it you change.


    Also, if you have BLM SMN and RDM you can have a plate for each one, and while yes you have to be in town, you CAN have a separate look whenever you switch classes. You can actually macro the job change with the plate change. Currently this has a downside in that you are actually changing the glamour on the item and overwriting the old, but if you have the Old look on another plate you can switch back. You can also use your premium dyes on the actual items in the dresser or on the plates themselves, re-applying them with every new plate or application of a plate.
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

  8. #8
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    Clover_Blake's Avatar
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    Clover Blake
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    Say you have a "Look" you like for your main job. But every time you upgrade you have to go get a prism, find your source item, glamour the new thing, then store the source item again. Now you just have a plate for ANY part of it you change.
    I know that's the idea, but it's still difficult to make it work in my case. I have many different sets saved (definitely more than plates would allow), and many of them share some items. So I'd be converting some items to glamour while leaving other items out, and then, when I'm planning a set, I'd have to use glamour prisms for some parts and a Plate slot for other parts, and I could only plan it in the inn-room. No longer will I be able to go to the marketplace/equip vendors and try on different combinations that could use some of the items I turned into glamours, for I can no longer access them outside an inn room (as far as I know). So I'd also have to think hard on what kind of items I might want to keep at hand in the far future, and what items I might not mind turning into glamours for a limited use, and it's all just too crazy and overcomplicated xfgdfgdhhhjjfcjfjfkj kg

    tldr; I think I'll keep my items on me ;;
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    Last edited by Clover_Blake; 01-31-2018 at 09:09 PM.
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    Hashmael Lightswain
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    Zalera
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    So, I sorta get the hesitancy on the whole "destroys your items" deal. Don't get me wrong, I hesitated putting some stuff in. And some of you glamour pros maybe have better reasonings for it, maybe I haven't fully explored this yet.
    But, honestly, what are you losing by destroying an item you will only ever use for glamour? It stays in the dresser (unless you perma-remove and destroy it), to my knowledge, you can still apply dyes (right? surely it still works). Has anyone tested whether you can use plates to have the same item dyed different ways for different plates?

    I feel like, functionally, except for the actual 200 item restriction, it's still effectively the same. Instead of clogging up 200 inventory slots, they give you this method that says "hey, if you're just keeping this for glamour, this dresser can hold all those items and you can do basically all the same stuff."

    Maybe it's just a case of, if 200 slots isn't nearly enough for you, and you're a "glamour is the true end game" type, this wasn't something made with you in mind. Maybe that was a mistake. But I think maybe it's worth acknowledging that on a small scale, it works for what it is, right?
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    Last edited by Hasrat; 01-31-2018 at 11:20 AM.

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    Panda-s1's Avatar
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    R'lloon Lhuil
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    Adamantoise
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    Samurai Lv 55
    Quote Originally Posted by Vstarstruck View Post
    also needing to go to the inn and not even be able go to your house???

    I hate needing to go to the inn for this, i cant cast glams the old way since we only got 10 plates as I work on things...
    you don't have to go to an inn to use glamour plates, you just need to go there to add stuff to your armoire. also the old glamour system is still in place (and actually more efficient, is no one gonna praise SE for further simplifying glamour prisms?)
    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    So, I sorta get the hesitancy on the whole "destroys your items" deal. Don't get me wrong, I hesitated putting some stuff in. And some of you glamour pros maybe have better reasonings for it, maybe I haven't fully explored this yet.
    ....
    yeah, it kinda beats having to keep making prisms over and over again. that being said I don't feel like using it too often, but for people who prefer using consistent outfits this is actually a pretty good system.
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