So glamour plates are dumber than anticipated...

[Vstarstruck]

There is a workaround for this.
Make a plate with what you want to glamour your retainer with. Remove the armor from your retainer and wear it yourself.. apply the plate.. put the gear back on your retainer. Voila.

That is not convenient though, remember they titled the one thing "glams made easy" that isn't easy and wasting more time then the old system.

you don't have to go to an inn to use glamour plates, you just need to go there to add stuff to your armoire. also the old glamour system is still in place (and actually more efficient, is no one gonna praise SE for further simplifying glamour prisms?)

You called the old system more efficient, of course no one is going to praise SE for this mess. I did ot say I had to go to the inn to use plates, I said I have to go to the inn to put items in it, and it is a pain when you are limited with how many windows you can pull up. You can't retainer > dresser, you can't chobobo bag > dresser, you can't use dyes from the bag, you cant glam from items in the bag, it is an extremely limited mess and you are shocked so many are unhappy with this?

[illgot]

But, honestly, what are you losing by destroying an item you will only ever use for glamour? It stays in the dresser (unless you perma-remove and destroy it), to my knowledge, you can still apply dyes (right? surely it still works). Has anyone tested whether you can use plates to have the same item dyed different ways for different plates?

Right now the only thing you are losing is the ability to put it on your retainer and Adventure Squad members. Retainer is the largest concern of the two for me since I set them up around my house to make it look busy outside.

Excluding the destruction of items that your retainers and AS members can use, it's just a horrible system. It's overly complex and doesn't actually do what we want.

[Alleo]

Right now the only thing you are losing is the ability to put it on your retainer and Adventure Squad members. Retainer is the largest concern of the two for me since I set them up around my house to make it look busy outside.

Excluding the destruction of items that your retainers and AS members can use, it's just a horrible system. It's overly complex and doesn't actually do what we want.

I honestly thougth that the plates would be more like the wardrobe in rift. There you have a lot different ensembles which you can save and with one single click you can change that ensemble to be your recent glamour..You just need to save the old look as one too if you want it back and then you can switch inbetween any of them with just one click everywhere you are..or you can simply have one set and click onto the glamour slot (since gear and glamour can have extra slots) and with another click change the look of the glamour to whatever you want, even from something that is not from your role. No need for items like prism, no certain place that you need to be and if you swap gear out of it the glamour will still stay since they are different slots.

Its easy and on top of that has a glamour log too so you can just collect every single item in this game..

And then we got the "new" system in FF14 which is just confusing, has a limit on both plates and in the dresser and destroys your gear...also it takes away the dye.

This ist truly just bad and needs lots of rework for me to touch it..why not make a good system from the very beginning? I would have waited till 5.0 for that..

[Krotoan]

So, I sorta get the hesitancy on the whole "destroys your items" deal. Don't get me wrong, I hesitated putting some stuff in. And some of you glamour pros maybe have better reasonings for it, maybe I haven't fully explored this yet.
But, honestly, what are you losing by destroying an item you will only ever use for glamour? It stays in the dresser (unless you perma-remove and destroy it), to my knowledge, you can still apply dyes (right? surely it still works). Has anyone tested whether you can use plates to have the same item dyed different ways for different plates?
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This system solves pretty much every one of my problems. I can make my looks and redo them whenever I upgrade and spend NO additional catalysts. It removes the items I use solely for glamour from my usable inventory and frees up slots for mats, items and leveling gear.
I've messed with the dyes and yes, you can dye the item IN the dresser inventory or in the plate itself.. or even AFTER you've used the plate if you're odd like that.

yeah I can see more spaces being nice, but right now I've glamoured everything I was holding for its appearance and used all of 130 slots. A lot of these items I glamoured are purchasable off the calamity salvager and if i need the space it's super easy to "destroy" them from the dresser and retrieve them later for a minimal gil investment.

Right now the only thing you are losing is the ability to put it on your retainer and Adventure Squad members. Retainer is the largest concern of the two for me since I set them up around my house to make it look busy outside.

There is a workaround for this.
Make a plate with what you want to glamour your retainer with. Remove the armor from your retainer and wear it yourself.. apply the plate.. put the gear back on your retainer. Voila.

or say you want to use the same armor for both and just glamour the weapons.
It appears the blank slot in the glamor plate works by stripping the glamor off whatever was there so screwed again

no it doesn't. A blank slot applies no glamour. My glamoured samurai weapon stayed an ice katana even with a blank space.

and stuff like armoire gear getting destroyed permanently just feels bad, that gear already has a home =(

Armoire gear is accessible directly through the dresser with no modification..


I don't think you actually used the system.

[illgot]

There is a workaround for this. Make a plate with what you want to glamour your retainer with. Remove the armor from your retainer and wear it yourself.. apply the plate.. put the gear back on your retainer. Voila.

That doesn't work if you want to change up your retainer later. I change my retainers gear to match the theme of my yard. I just wish I knew whey they created such a convoluted system.

[Krotoan]

That doesn't work if you want to change up your retainer later. I change my retainers gear to match the theme of my yard. I just wish I knew whey they created such a convoluted system.

You can always edit a plate and repeat the process. I'm not sure why that wouldn't work again.

[illgot]

You can always edit a plate and repeat the process. I'm not sure why that wouldn't work again.

plates don't work on retainers. Right now only actual gear works on retainers, so if you use something in your dresser you can't use it on your retainer.

[Nerfworthy]

Has anyone tested whether you can use plates to have the same item dyed different ways for different plates?

I was playing with this last night, and I figured out you can dye the piece in the dresser itself and it will stay that way and persist when you add it to any plates, and you can also dye them individually in their respective plates after they are added. So my expensive dye I left on the piece in the dresser itself, then I can change the dye if I want to without worrying about losing it once it is on a plate. It's rather handy the way it works, actually. I have no issues with it so far.

[Nihility]

i messed around a bit with some cheap vendor stuff.

it does have some serious limitations that make me hesitant to use it with any gear i really value.
Like the 10 plate thing didn't seem bad at all until i saw how it functions.

Like say you use 2 different tanks.
you decide you'll use normal glamour prisms for one and a plate for the other.
well, tough luck. Whenever you switch to the plate one it overwrites all your standard glamours permanently

or say you want to use the same armor for both and just glamour the weapons.
It appears the blank slot in the glamor plate works by stripping the glamor off whatever was there so screwed again

on the plus side since it overwrites glamours permanently you can do your retainers just by putting the gear on yourself and using a plate

and stuff like armoire gear getting destroyed permanently just feels bad, that gear already has a home =(

if the thing had like 1000+ slots and 30+ plates i would be more comfortable with it i think but even still the gone forever thing bothers me

[Ursa_Vonfiebryd]

All they would really need to do to fix this is make it a toggle like on neverwinter. You can either view the plate or your original gearset with its original glams. Then add a check box or toggle for whether the selected plate is for the current job, role, or all. Done. Make this happen, SE.