So glamour plates are dumber than anticipated...

[Iscah]

It kind of sucks because I'd sure like to start using this system and see how it feels out (and free up more armoury/inventory space) but the limitations make me really hesitant to do so. I'd be so much more comfortable with this if you could take things back out...

Start by adding some things you can easily purchase or reaquire, to get a feel for how it works.

I've tentatively used it to set up a plate for my machinist glamour, which I'm currently leveling and was glamouring with gear I was happy to put in the dresser. It's certainly a good easy way to reapply the whole costume at once! The only disadvantage would be that I don't think you can apply glamours "in advance" so it looks right as soon as you equip it.

It's definitely a bit nerve-wracking (moreso that I'd ever expect to feel while going through inventory menus!) that you have to decide whether you're happy with not having it accessible otherwise. Right now it's a bit of a thought process for each piece.

[Brynne]

It's definitely a bit nerve-wracking (moreso that I'd ever expect to feel while going through inventory menus!) that you have to decide whether you're happy with not having it accessible otherwise. Right now it's a bit of a thought process for each piece.

I experimented a little and made a plate for my lowbie astrologian using only armoire items so I could try it. Once you wrap your head around the idea that it's just the old system but entire outfits done at once and with no glamour prism cost, it's not bad at all! Once they've been able to relax restrictions on where/when you can apply them, increased plate/item limits, and allowed the system to be used for squadron members, I will probably feel a lot more comfortable throwing the majority of my glamour gear in there and making sets for my casters.

[Taye]

Sure this is not a perfect solution but it's a step in the right direction. I finally can reapply my outfit with the push of a button and don't have to get the right glamour crystal and color to use each time I get a new armor piece.

Maybe it's a bigger deal in the endgame, that I don't know yet. It works fine for me so far.

Just sucks that we can only change the plates in citys.

[Vstarstruck]

Everything is weird in it's own way and has it's own problems. Wanting things from other games is understandable, but learning another games systems isn't that hard and really isn't something I'd complain about.

This is how I read your post:
"Everything has down sides so it makes it ok and we should accept the shortcomings of a system no matter how big"

I do not think so, There is no reason games in the late 90's and early 00's should be outperforming a modern game in its second expansion in 2018.

This system is downright unacceptable with the money we give them. They do not put enough money back in the game, that is why we have this nonsense.

[Leowilde]

Yes. The new system isn’t separate in the end, it’s essentially a quick method of applying multiple glamours to your current gear.

That’s also why class restrictions still apply - once the glamour is applied from the plate, it’s just the same as if it was applied manually, with the same rules determining whether it is seen or not.

Oh thank goodness. I thought it replaced the old.

[SigmaOZ]

I still vote for an option to make everyone on your own client a "standard" glamour, like the squadron was. No more hula girl and bananahammock guy shenanigans in my dungeons..

That would be a viable solution!...

I could make everyone look like standard NPCs in my own game while the rest of players can have whatever look they want in their own clients!...

Lift glamour restrictions = Option to make other players wear standard outfits.

Win - win in my opinion and the only way I'd support it!...

[Rasikko]

I knew from the very beginning it wasn't going to be anything similar to what people were expecting. I wasn't too excited for this. If there were more than 10 plates then that'd be great.

[Odessium]

Who thought this system was a good idea?

[nickita]

i would love if i could combi armor from other sets or change a BWS Glove to a "No class" Glove.... maybe sometime

[Krotoan]

This is how I read your post:
"Everything has down sides so it makes it ok and we should accept the shortcomings of a system no matter how big"

I do not think so, There is no reason games in the late 90's and early 00's should be outperforming a modern game in its second expansion in 2018.
This system is downright unacceptable with the money we give them. They do not put enough money back in the game, that is why we have this nonsense.

It seems you've misunderstood me then. I was pointing out that other "current" games are still having similar problems but in different areas.
The system has shortcomings, we should ask to have them corrected. Limited space, limited plates and limiting areas for implementation, inability to directly apply to certain NPC's we control. Most of these have promises to be fixed. I hope SE follows through on those.
However for this game it is working and it isn't a bad system once you've learned it.
I'm not sure what you mean by outperforming, but FFXIV is one of the prettiest games I have played and I keep coming back to it for the world they've created. Aesthetically and technically I enjoy all the characters and locales. Story wise I care about most of the NPC's I've been introduced to and I enjoy the gameplay (IMPORTANT) as well. These are the most important things to me. This is what I PAY for and what I expect to be payed attention to when I play a RPG.
You're constantly harping on how this one system , that works well even if it's a little complex and not as robust as it needs to be for everyone, should catch up and we need to raise torches and crucify them because goshdarnit we are paying for this stuff and this is UNACCEPTABLE! (oh god I hate that word. 16 years in customer service made me HAAAATE that word).
I disagree. Wholeheartedly I disagree.
I've been playing this game for 8 years and slowly but surely they have been improving it.
There have been failures (1.0, diadem) and badly implemented ideas (abuseable limited housing) . But I'm not seeing the irredeemable part of this particular addition and nothing you have said has even made me think twice.
If anything, actually getting hands on it has assuaged many fears I DID have.