The time has come to get rid of enrage timers

[RiyahArp]

How is this remotely comparable? The actual equivalent would be me giving Scholar advice when it's fairly obviously I don't play it. Bobs is claiming Ultimate isn't hard yet has never even set foot inside it. As someone who has, let me tell, Ultimate is on a whole separate level. For him to make such a remark screams ignorance.

My point is more for the tendency that I have been noticing that only 3 and 4 are the real endgame, and that you can't comment on raiding at all unless you beat 4. The job thing was an analogy to that; because leveling all jobs to 70 is a rough equivalent of gatekeeping compared to leveling only a few. As for people commenting on easiness, well it works both ways; its just annoying to people who do o1s and o2 who get all their efforts dismissed in the same manner. I keep seem to get my main points misunderstood, though I try to restate them.

And whose fault do you think that is? Because last I checked, it's not usually raiders complaining about the skill ceiling...it's more or less midcores and casuals who complain.

There's no fault at all. I mean there isn't simply enough players who can reach a level of skill that can populate a game. MMOs cost too much to turn into niche hardcore games that rely on a small playerbase.