An NPC you truly hate with passion

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

Lyse.

The only redeeming thing about her is her fanbase, who become hilariously assblasted every time someone points out how poorly she was written and that she accomplished nothing throughout the entirety of Stormblood. I think they secretly know, but don't want to admit it. It's okay guys, I've been taken in by characters based solely on their character design too! That red dress is really nice, after all.

You mean she didn't learn the hard way that she can't just storm into a homeland she can barely claim, talking about freedom as a rallying cry and people would jump to her side? Or that her world view was rather narrow? Or that pure aggression wasn't going to get the job done? Or that poor planning gets people killed? OR that "freedom for Ala Mihgo" would have to include the beast tribes? OR that liberating Ala Mihgo didn't just end on a "happily ever after"?

I mean, I probably like every other Scion/former Scion more than her, but I saw things quite differently. Certainly more than it seems others did.

Thordan is more ambiguous, IMO, as he was doing what he saw best given the hand he was dealt by his ancestors.

I dunno man, Thordan was willing to keep his people believing in a thousand year lie to fuel a war they were barely maintaining (not winning, but not losing), work with Ascians, support and sponsor primal summoning/transformation within his own personal guard, and ultimately become one himself to enforce peace through fear. . . Sure, peace may have been the ultimate goal, but his list of sins runs long.