[1206] Water spells

[Spellbinder]

I'd prefer that CNJ get the Banish and Scourge spells that THM has, and that THM gets all of the elemental magic that CNJ currently has. If THM is to be the BLM, it should be the elemental magic master, and as CNJ is to be WHM, Light and Dark magic makes a bit more sense for it.

So... What you're saying is... Conjurer should become Thaumaturge.... and Thaumaturge become Conjurer...

[RikkCavalier]

Ok, a few comments here:

First, no water? Really? Isn't that one of the traditional elements if not the most important? So, what will happen to all the water based arms we have now like Wand of Tides, water scepter or whatever its called, etc.?

Second, do they not plan to implement Leviathan as a primal? Last time I checked, he was water-based. What are they going to do when they add him? Make him ice?? It's absurd.

Finally, as Jinyra said, no debuffs are unacceptable, silence especially. It's absolutely necessary for the mage mobs within the strongholds. But, before we lose are tempers, Yoshida has mentioned in numerous interviews that the ratio of mage classes to melee classes is unbalanced and the first new job before anything else will be a mage class. (Thank god.) I'm hoping this new mage class will be somewhat of a debuffer/support class.

[AmyRae]

Second, do they not plan to implement Leviathan as a primal? Last time I checked, he was water-based. What are they going to do when they add him? Make him ice?? It's absurd.

I know March of this year seems like a long time ago, but Japan suffered its worst tsunami in recent memory which resulted in the deaths of tens of thousands, entire towns swallowed whole, and an ongoing nuclear crisis at the Fukushima power plant.

Making light of tsunamis with Leviathan would probably be received in poor taste at this time.

[Mikiko]

So... What you're saying is... Conjurer should become Thaumaturge.... and Thaumaturge become Conjurer...

Considering everybody thought THM was going to be WHM before it was announced otherwise, I don't see why not. WHM on XI has Banish spells, and Scourge could fit that role a bit as well. Having the elemental magic split between two classes is silly, even with the action bar and the ability to set any spells and abilities you want.

[Aenarion]

Considering everybody thought THM was going to be WHM before it was announced otherwise, I don't see why not.

the 5 people that couldn't read the class description or notice the blatantly obvious shift of con -> healer does not constitute "everybody"

[AmyRae]

the 5 people that couldn't read the class description or notice the blatantly obvious shift of con -> healer does not constitute "everybody"

Yeah, the one that showed a conjurer in a black mage hat surrounded by all 6 elements. Totally screamed healer.

[Coglin]

Considering everybody thought THM was going to be WHM before it was announced otherwise, I don't see why not. WHM on XI has Banish spells, and Scourge could fit that role a bit as well. Having the elemental magic split between two classes is silly, even with the action bar and the ability to set any spells and abilities you want.

the 5 people that couldn't read the class description or notice the blatantly obvious shift of con -> healer does not constitute "everybody"

Yeah, the one that showed a conjurer in a black mage hat surrounded by all 6 elements. Totally screamed healer.

Oh, you mean because you unintelligently linked a hat to be class defining over the actual class description that were out on the SE site pre game launch that said

"In the hands of a skilled practitioner, thaumaturgy can be a force of terrifying destruction. At the heart of this school of magic lies the ability to call forth and command the latent aether within oneself through deep introspection."

As to mean they were gonna be a healer.......trust me, not everyone made that illogical assumption. Just you.

Aenarion is right. The class descriptions released well before the game were the original base for lore of the game and gave no basis to make incorect and false assumptions that THM would be WHM.

[Spellbinder]

Considering everybody thought THM was going to be WHM before it was announced otherwise, I don't see why not. WHM on XI has Banish spells, and Scourge could fit that role a bit as well. Having the elemental magic split between two classes is silly, even with the action bar and the ability to set any spells and abilities you want.

Then you'd also be asking them to completely destroy the lore of Conjurer as well. Remember, Conjurer is not White Mage.... White Mage is White Mage.