Glamours made easy - announcement

[Iscah]

I don't even care that much about what materials it uses, but I'd definitely like to see a more compact version that just looks like a small, tabletop jewelry box or something? The full model is a bit bulky and gaudy for my tastes, though if you can close the drawers and have it look like an ordinary vanity that would be great...

It looks to me like it could sit closed until you interact with it, then it opens up at the same time the interface comes up? At least that's how I'd do it if I was making something that looked like that.

The jewellery box is a nice idea too. They have a similar idea with full-size and miniature orchestrions, so it's possible.

[Minako_Nightsong]

I am out of the loop so can someone tell me why they don't use a system like WoW's transmog log? Has it got something to do with consoles? WoW is much older technology so I don't understand.

[Krotoan]

I am out of the loop so can someone tell me why they don't use a system like WoW's transmog log? Has it got something to do with consoles? WoW is much older technology so I don't understand.

we've never gotten a definitive answer as to why any particular solution has been used or not used in any situation. FFXIV's Devs don't usually discuss internal decisions on system implementation with the userbase.

If you're asking for speculation or general consensus there are two answers:

a.That system wouldn't work with the higgldy-piggldy that is FFXIVs engine and server network/framework.

b. They are stupid and/or hate us and/or they don't understand that's something we want. (.. this seems unlikely)

[Vhailor]

I will say, the new system seems to be anything but easy. We'll see how it turns out, though.

Personally, I still think the Glamour system appears to very poorly thought-out. I understand the theoretical value of Glamour Plates, and I think they could actually go a long way toward resolving some of the problems with the existing system, but why is this being launched as a new thing with a new name? If SE wanted to go this route - rather than a proper Glamour Log - they already have a superior mechanism for doing so: gear sets. We can switch between them almost anywhere we want, and there are a lot more than 10 slots available. Just introduce an NPC that allows Glamours to be layered over gear sets, and pair the NPC with a Log of sorts that, as it's only accessible when interacting with certain NPCs, will minimize the burden on servers.

Only time will tell, but SE's obsession with creating entirely new systems for every small change - as opposed to augmenting existing, established systems with new functionality - is a tremendous liability. It might make for flashier headlines when previewing version updates, but it also contributes to a game world that feels cobbled together from dozens of independently-designed pieces, rather than crafted and built up with some sort of consistent vision.

[Hasrat]

If you're asking for speculation or general consensus there are two answers:

Or could be just as likely they're trying to do something unique and not just copy/paste another game's mechanic.

[RichardButte]

Or could be just as likely they're trying to do something unique and not just copy/paste another game's mechanic.

Yoshi-P was an avid WoW player and directly lifted a lot from WoW, which in turn lifted some things from XIV. It happens in the MMO market literally all the damn time.

Being different just for the sake of being different is part of what made 1.0 such a raging disaster, like using retainer wards instead of an actual auction house.

I feel Yoshi-P wouldn't fall into that trap so I'm guessing this has something to do with the database yet again...

[Rokke]

Or could be just as likely they're trying to do something unique and not just copy/paste another game's mechanic.

A bicycle with square tires is unique but it isn't inherently good for being unique. In true SE fashion, this seems so unnecessarily complicated lol

[Hasrat]

It's possible. Although I'm not sure if this was truly the simplest/easiest design they could come up with for keeping the stress load down.
But, I'm no WoW player, so can't really comment on what is and isn't the same, nor do I have any knowledge of how the infrastructure is structured. So my input doesn't amount to much.

[Pixiehawk]

I wonder if the dresser is gonna be CRP specialist? Or will you just get it from npc shop

Inn room only

[CosmicKirby]

To be fair, it's not that they can't, they haven't. You want a full disclosure of how the system works? Wait for the patch notes. That's how they've almost always done things.

Exactly this. Square is usually very tight lipped about new things until the patchnotes or a live letter immediately before a patch. Welcome to the world of every raider who has worried about gearing or job changes ever.

That being said, the system isn't a Glamour Log to WoW's Transmog Log, but supposedly that's just not doable? I'll take their word for it until I at least get my hands on it, but it does seem like a big step forward in the very least. At least wait until release of it to complain, there's nothing claiming that they won't work on this system in the future, as they have with Glamour already.

we've never gotten a definitive answer as to why any particular solution has been used or not used in any situation. FFXIV's Devs don't usually discuss internal decisions on system implementation with the userbase.

If you're asking for speculation or general consensus there are two answers:

a.That system wouldn't work with the higgldy-piggldy that is FFXIVs engine and server network/framework.

b. They are stupid and/or hate us and/or they don't understand that's something we want. (.. this seems unlikely)

Yoshi P listed WoW: Legion as his game of the year. There is an almost ZERO percent chance they don't understand that people want something similar, or nearly identical to WoW's. We can armchair dev all we want, very, very few players would even be able to understand how the system works if a dev sat down and explained it to them, and fewer still could even begin to suggest actual methods of improving/changing the new system we're getting on any sort of technical level.

It's unfortunate, but I'll take any improvements to glamour at all. Heck, I could live with the current system if most/all of the restrictions were just lifted. WoW, ironically, still has this problem in some cases, almost a decade later. Whatever powers that be decide that players should only be allowed to wear XYZ item on ABC class or at DEF time, even though item MNO looks nearly identical and has no such restrictions.