Glamours made easy - announcement

[Vstarstruck]

I indeed think it's laughable that people think the Devs are that disconnected or clueless. .. but it's what people have posted, so .. common consensus.

I think it is laughable that you can't see they do not listen to us or understand what we want. They do not post here, they do not show connection at all. So yes they are acting clueless, or stubborn and think what they give out is better when it is not.

I am out of the loop so can someone tell me why they don't use a system like WoW's transmog log? Has it got something to do with consoles? WoW is much older technology so I don't understand.

Server limitations or not enough budget or something, it is why I been voicing that I dislike what they are proposing while some are telling me "just accept it, it is a start"

Well I disagree on that idea. I am on the stance just put more money in the game already, we pay a lot for this game, lots of people, why can't we see a return on it?

A bicycle with square tires is unique but it isn't inherently good for being unique. In true SE fashion, this seems so unnecessarily complicated lol

yup that is what they are doing. I am siding with they do not understand what we are requesting, or do not want to because it will cost too much money. (in their eyes)

[Balipu]

At best, one per role plus favorite job, one per dol/h (unless you use job specific items from yellow scrip) and the rest is usual experimentation/rp gear.

well we currently have 5 roles. Assuming you didn't pick your favorite job for the role picks and have a separate set for DoL and DoH you still stand at 8 sets at absolute maximum. So you can have 2 RP sets.

One per job would be ideal, so 15 at this point. I don't really understand why they decided to only give us 10.

Well gatherers often have one outfit that is often BiS and crafters too. So if I want different outfits for each of these classes I will already need all ten of them..thats without any battle jobs. So yes 10 is not enough.

Again, you two. Do you really need a glamour available for EVERY combat job? All of them? You really honestly regularly play all of them? I seriously don't buy that.

I think it is laughable that you can't see they do not listen to us or understand what we want. They do not post here, they do not show connection at all. So yes they are acting clueless, or stubborn and think what they give out is better when it is not.

Wel I know you've been here barely a month but I'm sure you noticed the dev tracker here on the forum. You know what it tracks? That's right. Dev responses on this forum. See, this is how easy it is to see that you are talking out of your butthole.

Server limitations or not enough budget or something, it is why I been voicing that I dislike what they are proposing while some are telling me "just accept it, it is a start"

Well I disagree on that idea. I am on the stance just put more money in the game already, we pay a lot for this game, lots of people, why can't we see a return on it?

Because we includes many people with various different wishes and priorities and neither you nor I nor anyone else can claim to speak for all of them. Fans of world of warcraft can't seem to be able to grasp the concept of getting one new class in two consecutive expansions. In just two expansions we were getting five. They also seem to believe that a patch that includes a dungeon and a raid (both staggered and unavailable at patch day) makes a patch the largest in MMO history. Here people acted like the sky is falling when Yoshida said that odd numbered patches will only get one dungeon. From this angle we seem to be getting plenty of return. We might even be spoiled.

yup that is what they are doing. I am siding with they do not understand what we are requesting, or do not want to because it will cost too much money. (in their eyes)

In their eyes. And i suppose you as an outsider who has been playing this game for a month knows more about Square Enix's finances than the people who have been working there for years.

[Vstarstruck]

well we currently have 5 roles. Assuming you didn't pick your favorite job for the role picks and have aseparate set for DoL and DoH you still stand at 8 sets at absolute maximum. So you can have 2 RP sets.

Are you trying to defend that 10 sets is enough or just how to deal with the current system? This is ideally how many sets we should have:
15 for DoW/DoM, 15 for each one to have a different look in PvP
8 for each crafting class
3 for each gathering class

The most different sets someone does currently that I personally know, uses different gear to have a set for each job (15) each gathering class (3) and 1 set for all crafting classes due to melds etc, then they got a PvP look for healing (though I do admit this was more significant during HW since now you can slap on whatever) and town walking set.

So we can remove 1 set from gathering that acts as "base" while the other 2 would need plates, Remove 1 healing set, since the other 2 healers would need plates, Would have 1 caster plate since SMN/RDM can share gear while BLM needs a complete different set, 2 plates for tanks would be needed, 1 plate for SAM/MNK, No plates for MCH/BRD since they gear differently, DRG and NIN wouldn't need plates, then 7 plates for crafting.

so you need 15 plates minimum while 30 would be more ideal. I think they are looking at WoW too much and somehow forget that is 1 to 3 classes per character while ffxiv is 26. Then around 40 would be considered nice and going above what is needed for those that want to make use of that.

In there eyes. And i suppose you as an outsider who has been playing this game for a month knows more about Square Enix's finances than the people who have been working there for years.

Do not patronize me. I am sure I know much more then you do, and considering your comment you seem to only need 8 sets, seems like a justified conclusion.

[Skivvy]

Do not patronize me. I am sure I know much more then you do, and considering your comment you seem to only need 8 sets, seems like a justified conclusion.

lol, wut?

Comments like this make it so that people just stop reading what you say.

[Melichoir]

So, is the new system set up in such a fashion so technically a set of gear can have multiple looks to it via these 'plates'? As in, my "tank gear" can be glamoured multiple different ways via plates at the same time?

Also, are we only allowed to access plates from the wardrobe, or can we use the plates on teh fly when were out and about, but only can change aspects of the plates back in town?

[Lucke]

Still reading through the thread, so forgive me if this was answered, but do we know if the 200 cap is total or does that mean 200 helms + 200 chest armors + 200 gloves +200 pants +200 boots/shoes etc.?

If it's 200 of each armor slot I wouldn't mind that, but if it's 200 TOTAL it's not nearly enough IMO.

[Aronys]

It's 200 total.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Its 200 total, plus the armoire, and they are adding cash shop items to the armoire. I'm waiting to see how it works out before rendering judgement.

[Lucke]

Ew.

People wanted to have pet battles that are like Pokemon or something like WoW..yet they gave us LoV which was death on arrival..seems they truly listened to us here. Also Diadem got a lot of feedback and yet somehow SE managed to mess up the second version even more..so yes I believe that sometimes truly dont understand what we want..or just dont care and want to create something new and complicated for the sake of it..

Lemmie tell ya something. SE pretty much made Pokemon with FF characters and called it "World of Final Fantasy". Since they've shown they could do it, if they revamped LoV into something like WoFF and it's battle system, it would be a bazillion times better than LoV is now. I'd never leave the Gold Saucer. But this is about glams.

[TaranTatsuuchi]

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Other notes:
I guess they changed the "commode" to dresser after the brouhaha it caused lol.

Aw, I thought it was funny being able to call it the Glamor Toilet...

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Still if I know correctly we can do ten plates, so ten full outfits. Pretty sure nobody needs more than 10 full outfits glamoured at any given time.

Let's do some math...
If you want a unique outfit for each class...
And considering shared equipment, because that's what ends up happening.



Paladin/Warrior/Dark Knight
1 Using the current system leaving 2 Plates required.

White Mage/Scholar/Astrologian
1 using the current system leaving 2Plates required.

Dragoon
Doesn't share so can use the current system 0 Plates required.

Ninja
Doesn't share so can use the current system 0 Plates required.

Monk/Samurai
1 using the current system leaving 1 Plates required.

Black Mage/Red Mage/Summoner
1 using the current system leaving 2 Plates required.

Bard/Machinist
1 using the current system leaving 1 Plate required.

Fisher/Miner/Botanist
1 using the current system leaving 2 Plates required.

Armorer/Blacksmith/Alchemist/Carpenter/Culinarian/Weaver/Leatherworker/Goldsmith
1 using the current system leaving 7 Plates required.

That's a minimum of 17 plates just to have unique outfits for all the classes.
Not including any other possible use for those plates.