4.2 Housing Update

[StouterTaru]

My standards don't give early access buying large houses to small FCs that have been around for less than a year. You might get early access for a small house with my standards, though.

[Zsolen]

My standards don't give early access buying large houses to small FCs that have been around for less than a year. You might get early access for a small house with my standards, though.

This is exactly what is wrong with it. This doesn't favor established FCs. This favors newbie grinder FCs that fall apart at a later point. It means don't bother trying to upgrade, even with an available plot, because you will never have it. It doesn't take years to have an established guild in a game only several years old. You need to give a reason why you prefer the boom and bust FCs get the green light by restricting others that have 40-50 million plus gil. They are plenty of dying out older FCs as well. They have little activity, but they may have had the credits from previous years. That sets a preference to a FC with little activity versus one with a lot more.

[StouterTaru]

You must have missed the "early access" part; it was a suggestion to give this access to the soon to be added wards before giving it to personal housing. The number of FCs that actually fit the requirements would be small compared to the number of new houses being added, and most of them would already have FC housing. Those that move would leave a plot open for anyone, and after a few days the empty plots in the new wards would be open to personal housing and FCs without the FC credit cost.

I'm not sure where your hatred of these boom and bust/newbie grinder FCs comes from, but if they have hundreds of active members at any given time, and have been around for a couple years, then it sounds to me like an established and active FC that deserves a large house more than a raid group that's been together for 6 months and does nothing else in game.

[Zsolen]

Hatred? Many aren't strong for too long. They don't make long lasting FCs. Your idea sounds rather self-serving for certain FCs with no reason for it. Why favor any FC at all? You idea is the exact opposite of everyone getting their fair chance at a house.

[StouterTaru]

Many aren't strong for too long. They don't make long lasting FCs.

Then they wouldn't be around or have the FC credits, problem never existed.

Why favor any FC at all? You idea is the exact opposite of everyone getting their fair chance at a house.

I never claimed everyone getting their fair chance at a house was a goal, I think personal houses in the FC wards was a horrible idea. I'm in favor of FCs getting houses first, and requiring company credits is my suggestion for reducing abuse of the system by solo FCs.

[Zsolen]

Square wanted to make it fair. What they think matters a lot more. Your solution doesn't solve anything.

[StouterTaru]

"Fair" is highly subjective. Anything done to make something more fair is beneficial to some, and detrimental to others. I think that what I proposed was better in whole, and you disagree. You are right that neither of our opinions are going to be the basis for SE's actions. While it doesn't solve anything, I think that it would be better than the status quo.

[PureSteel]

I know they most likely won't but I want them to put in restrictions on the number of houses an account can own. I see no good reason a single player needs more than a personal and fc house. How much time would someone honestly spend in each of their multiple houses. Now these people say that if SE does this it will make these players with multiple house angry. But they are a minority. The number of players without a house exceeds them. And it's not like you won't have a house....you just can't continue to ruin the game for the rest of the players

[Claviusnex]

I know they most likely won't but I want them to put in restrictions on the number of houses an account can own. I see no good reason a single player needs more than a personal and fc house. How much time would someone honestly spend in each of their multiple houses. Now these people say that if SE does this it will make these players with multiple house angry. But they are a minority. The number of players without a house exceeds them. And it's not like you won't have a house....you just can't continue to ruin the game for the rest of the players

A number of those other houses are owned by alts. If alts could share a house on the same server then SE could go to a one house per account, per server but I still think it only fair to grandfather those that already own multiple houses. The number freed by forcible means would still fall far short of meeting the current housing needs. I also suspect allowing alts to share a house would result in some multi-home owners to voluntarily abandon some of their extra houses which is a much better way to handle the situation.

[PureSteel]

I agree Alts should be able to share houses on the same server. And it would be nice if players would then willing give up extra houses to people that don't yet have one. However, speaking from experience players have been nothing but terrible since I've been trying to get a house. And the fact that players own several extra houses, maybe not even for an alt, is a testament to this. Really, seriously you don't need all of those houses. And then I see the posts from them on here talking about how many houses they have and SE better not take them away. It's sad they have created a lot of negativity because why? Because they need all of those houses? I hope players who own far to many houses read this, and instead of getting mad and defensive take one of your houses and give it to a player on your server who doesn't have one. You will make a friend and you made someone's many wonderful days on the game. You will be surprised how good it will make you feel