ARC should not be a Bard

[Coglin]

By all means, go play those "Other MMOs" and don't bring conflict of interest to FFXIV. SE does their own thing and if they seem to borrow functions and systems from other games, look down the line of SE products first, from the first Dragon Quest, Final Fantasy to Crono Trigger and Parasite Eve etc. SE doesn't borrow or steal ideas because that would be infringement, duuuh!

I do play those other MMOs, Thanks. Its not a conflict of interest to point out that its fairly standard in the genre for bards to be archers. Its just as or more relavent then all of the games that are not FF games that you mention. You sure are being a hipocrit to say not to mention other MMOs, just to go on and mention several games that are not even in the same genre as FFXIV.

You talking about new abilities but are you sure you read them well?
Even in the new list ARC abilities are dps oriented... <.< enhanced atk damage and ways to lower enmity (since, again, it's meant to be high dps class...)

So what. You just accuratly described THM and LNC as well. That said, you go on to make more assumptions. It has been hinted by the devs that ARC is meant to be a DD but not neccissarily a "High DPS" DD as you claim. Based on the fact that they felt high damage at safer distance = Lack of balance. That is the reason they mentioned having nerfed ARC the last time the did so.

At this point I can list 3+ abilities from the list of new upcomming abilities that would read as if it is meant to make the class a high DPS when looking at each abilities individual description. That doesn't make it wise to assume that will make each a "High DPS" DD class.

[PSxpert2011]

I do play those other MMOs, Thanks. Its not a conflict of interest to point out that its fairly standard in the genre for bards to be archers. Its just as or more relavent then all of the games that are not FF games that you mention. You sure are being a hipocrit to say not to mention other MMOs, just to go on and mention several games that are not even in the same genre as FFXIV.

As long as we play the same game, there's no need to start disputes. Everything is opinion based.

You want to start name calling, you can leave it with your "other MMO forums".

When I mention games produced by SE in appose to the non-related MMOs your basing your argument (with off-topic comparisons not associated with SE or Final Fantasy...) you must be missing the context of my statement over dosing with too much exposure to gamma from your monitor 24/7.

One point I want to make on bard topic, it could work in the back row but it shouldn't be a associated with Archer or ranger etc. Just saying... not any of the two has to do with one another.

[Lionheart]

So what. You just accuratly described THM and LNC as well. That said, you go on to make more assumptions. It has been hinted by the devs that ARC is meant to be a DD but not neccissarily a "High DPS" DD as you claim. Based on the fact that they felt high damage at safer distance = Lack of balance. That is the reason they mentioned having nerfed ARC the last time the did so.

At this point I can list 3+ abilities from the list of new upcomming abilities that would read as if it is meant to make the class a high DPS when looking at each abilities individual description. That doesn't make it wise to assume that will make each a "High DPS" DD class.

Can anyone translate what he just said? o.O

[Vanguard319]

I do play those other MMOs, Thanks. Its not a conflict of interest to point out that its fairly standard in the genre for bards to be archers. Its just as or more relavent then all of the games that are not FF games that you mention. You sure are being a hipocrit to say not to mention other MMOs, just to go on and mention several games that are not even in the same genre as FFXIV.

It's also not unusual for archers to be associated with rangers, which is the job arc should have been in the first place.

[Davorok]

Archer is not a Bard...but Bard is an Archer.

[PSxpert2011]

Archer is not a Bard...but Bard is an Archer.

These seems to make a lot of sense! You my friend had convinced me... Archer is NOT a bard but Bard is truly a range enfeebler, buffer and occasional attacker.

Good show! ^^

[Lionheart]

These seems to make a lot of sense! You my friend had convinced me... Archer is NOT a bard but Bard is truly a range enfeebler, buffer and occasional attacker.

Good show! ^^

archer is not a bard.
bard is truly a range enfeebler.
ergo bard is not an archer.

xD