The Aurum Vale

[LunaTsukihime]

Holy moly, did you see that everyone?! If they don't fix a dungeon that's been in the game since 1.0 and in it's current form since 2.0 then this game is going to literally die out because it's unfun. Quick! Somebody light the Yoshi-P Signal and let him know!!

Also get over yourself. It sounds like you've already "reverse pulled" your own head up your backside and are so enamored with the scent of your own flatulence that you actually believe that you're god's gift to the world. But you're not. You're just a sad, sorry, pitiful person on the internet.

I like you !

[Shurrikhan]

I can't imagine the dps who needed 30 min just to get in there and now need to wait on your replacement are having such a good time either. You can't pull the emotions card while obviously ignoring the other side. You can be selfish but there's no moral high ground in that.
This thread started out not so bad but now it's come to this...

To be fair, I feel like I've done AV and SV normal both more often without a tank than with, given the ditch rate. Heck, until the cross-class skill nerfs, casters could throw on some older Int/Mind gear and we could just duo them.

I'm not about to just stand around because my tank ditched. I just wish I could replace them faster, preferably with another DPS who wouldn't ditch straight away knowing their next queue will be instant anyways. Heck, CC still works until 50. It's only after that SE purposely breaks DPS kneecaps in no-tank compositions.

[MaloraYuki]

you are right I am exceptional but that was the wrong level roulette at the wrong time. Am I perfect? of course not but these extremely mean posts show that posters inability to see having fun is way more important than crunching through an unpopular, unappealing, crappy dungeon like Aurum Vale. Fun playing brings longevity and longevity brings stability and stability means more content and more content brings in more players, more people to talk to and share ideas and perspectives. Keep an open mind change Aurum Vale for the good of this game.

You aren’t exceptional, you are the scum of this community. You’re what ruins games, but you keep acting like you’re gods gift you dumb troll.

[ChameleonMS]

OP, action of leaving AV is endemic of the problems with AV. OP is not alone in immediate or rage quitting that is very common among many players in AV.
Just because "you" the other players do not think the behaviour is acceptable, the reason behind the behaviour should be addressed to improve the game for all players.
Our critism of the content, no matter how old, can still affect change from the developers.
Letter from the Producer LIVE Part XL

We'll be making adjustments to the main scenario dungeons, so that new players can enjoy them without worrying. It may extend the duration of the dungeon; however, we have increased the rewards as well.

Would OP have quit if the underlying issues with said content were addressed. Most likely no, and the FLAMEfest that has occurred since the start of this thread would not exist. At least not on this topic.
There are dozens pieces of content in this game which are very undesirable in the current design and we should continue to complain about them until they are fixed.

[MaloraYuki]

Would OP have quit if the underlying issues with said content were addressed. Most likely no, and the FLAMEfest that has occurred since the start of this thread would not exist. At least not on this topic.
There are dozens pieces of content in this game which are very undesirable in the current design and we should continue to complain about them until they are fixed.

The problem with this post is the OP is a well known troll. A very disliked troll, they never mean anything they say and they never have anything actually useful to say. Change will never come from one of their posts lol.

[LunaTsukihime]

OP, action of leaving AV is endemic of the problems with AV. OP is not alone in immediate or rage quitting that is very common among many players in AV.
Just because "you" the other players do not think the behaviour is acceptable, the reason behind the behaviour should be addressed to improve the game for all players.
Our critism of the content, no matter how old, can still affect change from the developers.
Letter from the Producer LIVE Part XL

Would OP have quit if the underlying issues with said content were addressed. Most likely no, and the FLAMEfest that has occurred since the start of this thread would not exist. At least not on this topic.
There are dozens pieces of content in this game which are very undesirable in the current design and we should continue to complain about them until they are fixed.

Nice try, not gonna take you serious tho.
The behavior is not acceptable in ANY case.

For no one, and if you really defending this "thing" for bailing on their party then you too are quite the problematic person.

There are not "dozens" of contents that are undesirable, they are less liked by some, but on the other hand loved by others.
For example, i absolutely love running Castrum Meridianum and The Pretorium, but a friend of mine loathes them to hell and back.

Do they need to be changed because of that?
Nope, its personal preference, SE cannot carter to everyone, there will always be things that wont sit right with a percentage of the playerbase while others cant get enough of it.

Think about this before going "this dungeon is bad I want it changed" because someone else might disagree.

As for the Topic creator, don't defend Him.. her... it.. meh, whatever.
As a Mentor, bailing should penalized WAY more seriously.

[The_NPC]

I dispise Aurum Vale so much I unsync-stomp its arse every so often, for laughs, BUT if I get it in roullete I will never run from it just cause its "That place". I compaire it to cleaning a dirty toliet, sure it sucks & u really don't wanna but it has to be done cause you wanted to use/have it (You used DF roullete knowing you could end up in a dungeon you dispise cause you want the rewards from using said roullete... then just do what you can to get threw it... granted as its a game & certian class types don't have to wait as long then add ppl with porr attitudes/low paitience/low free time you get the "rage quit" moments which will happen at some point)

Becides even IF they made AV easyer/less punishing then the someone would find another dungeon they'd rage quit from... like the Vault for example

[ChameleonMS]

For no one, and if you really defending this "thing" for bailing on their party then you too are quite the problematic person.
As for the Topic creator, don't defend Him.. her... it.. meh, whatever.
As a Mentor, bailing should penalized WAY more seriously.

I see you misunderstand my position. I am not defending the act of leaving, I am pointing out that the act of leaving, performed by many people, not just OP, for this content other pieces of content is the result of poor design.

There are not "dozens" of contents that are undesirable, they are less liked by some, but on the other hand loved by others.
For example, i absolutely love running Castrum Meridianum and The Pretorium, but a friend of mine loathes them to hell and back.

Do they need to be changed because of that?
Nope, its personal preference, SE cannot carter to everyone, there will always be things that wont sit right with a percentage of the playerbase while others cant get enough of it.

Think about this before going "this dungeon is bad I want it changed" because someone else might disagree.

Sure, there are plenty of pieces of content which have been changed due to player reactions too them. I will cite a few more, the Bees in Amdapor Keep, and FATE scaling. And, there are plenty more that still should be addressed.

[LunaTsukihime]

Sure, there are plenty of pieces of content which have been changed due to player reactions too them. I will cite a few more, the Bees in Amdapor Keep, and FATE scaling. And, there are plenty more that still should be addressed.

First, that's called feedback, not me-me-me demanding by a single troll.
Second, those examples are fine and dandy, but don't relate to the Topic at all, its about hating a whole dungeon so much that bailing for this person-thing is the only option.

The Bees in Keep were a nuisance and got nerfed, but no one bailed because of them.
The Fates got better scaling because we rose in level cap and experience gains.

Don't compare apples to oranges, don't work, nor with lemons.

[Darrcyphfeid]

TL;DR the thread. Aurum Vale is a good dungeon. We've had enough instances receive unnecessary nerfs.

it's these kinds of responses that make me angry. I am good and can complete this dungeon if need be but sir it isn't fun to me. When I play I want to have fun and the mechanics of this dungeon are not I repeat fun to me. It could be fun to you but it's not about you it is about me.

As someone that had the misfortune to run PotD 71-80 with you not even two hours ago, your definition of fun seems to be to getting carried. Your states of being are "afk," "afk sitting on the exit while it's locked," and occasionally "running by people engaged in combat to look for the exit to resume being afk." As a PLD with 99/99 Aetherpool.