House Payments

[Alleo]

Although I don't agree with the gil system. I once suggested houses be leased using something similar to ventures that could be bought with gc seals /fc points and traded in as a form of rent on plots instead if the auto demolishion timer we have now. 1 venture per day or something. basically a single dungeon drop would pay a weeks lease.

One big pro of such a system is it would actually allow players to take breaks from the game. which is something Yoshi says it's perfectly ok for players to do.

And why would we need one venture per day if you can get it so easily? House sellers will just do some mass fates and get enough ventures thus they can still do their thing. And for the rest its just one extra step to own their house. Its nothing big true, but then one has to question why we would even need it. At the same time it still forces people to do certain content and pray that nobody forgets to pay in advance or per day...

The demolishing system was put there to get back all the unused plots. I dislike that timer because it stops me from taking a longer break but in the end your system would just trade a timer with ventures..so instead of remembering to log into the game each 45 days people have to remember that they had paid enough ventures..and lets hope that they are able to log in when their advanced payment is through and that they have enough to pay for this.

In the end this would still force people to do certain content and it would go against the reason why they put a timer there anyway..if people can pay that much in advance then honestly they could just abolish that system. (And who says that SE would not just use the timer on top of that? Or that they would stick with one venture per day?)

No instead of punishing people even in the smallest way lets all raise our voice together and hope for better changes without any negative consequence for house owners..

Biggest problem with this argument is that mounts are not a finite resource. Houses are, and until they are not, there should be some thought put into making a system that works in favor of active players keeping houses, and inactive players no longer hoarding them. The Auto Demo system is too easy to work around, since you can just log in once a month, run inside your house, and then never step into the game again until you get another e-mail reminder that your house is going to demo. I feel like, after 3 e-mails, SE should stop reminding someone that their house is up for auto-demo. If they have to be reminded that much, they clearly don't care that much about their house.

And the ideas with the payment would not change anything on the system itself too. It would not suddenly make it so that all people that want a house will get it..the only thing it does is making worse for those that own one but might not be able to play the game each day the week for hours a day..you are basically saying that under such a system only certain kind of players are even allowed a house..(and nobody can even be sure how high or low SE would put those rents..)

Lets not assume that somebody is not interested in their house if they need more than three emails or even lose it..there is something called real life next to the game and a lot can happen in that. A rent system (which would probably be on top of the timer because reasons..) would just make this even more difficult.

I would like some sort of house maintenance system, not forcefully gil, that you bave to do periodically or your house would be a trash can full of dust and spider webs
It would be cool.

And other then maybe RP reasons what would be the positive side for this? I mean I can already see some people going into houses and then point their fingers on the owners, saying how its full of spider webs so the owner does not care about its house and thus should not own it. x)

[Mirch]

I would like some sort of house maintenance system, not forcefully gil, that you bave to do periodically or your house would be a trash can full of dust and spider webs
It would be cool.

[Dzian]

Lets try this from a different perspective.

Or lets charge a rent on gear drops from savage, payable once per month with Ex token drops. Easily affordable if you do savage on a regular basis and if you don't then you don't need that gear anyway...

Firstly way to completely over exaggerate the issue. A leading/ maintenance fee is nothing like your examples.

Secondly this one I quoted is funny.
Why? Because it essentially already exists. In the game. And it exists on ALL gear. Not just savage drops

You already have to pay a maintenance fee on all your gear. Either by way of a npc repair guy scattered around or by buying dark matter to keep your gear in good condition.

If you don't repair or look after your gear it simply stops working.

It's really no different at all than a leading/rental/mainteneace system on housing plots.

So in effect all you've really done is highlight the system basically already exists and adding it to housing instead of an auto demo timer wouldn't be that far fetched.

[TR_RA]

I do not support a monthly fee of any kind for housing.

I fully agree with Senn here, and your post is actually kind of pointless as someone else already said - the amounts you suggest are literally NOTHING for most players. There are plenty of MINIONS that sell for more than those costs, so idk what "counter-balance" you think that would provide.

[Alleo]

You already have to pay a maintenance fee on all your gear. Either by way of a npc repair guy scattered around or by buying dark matter to keep your gear in good condition.

If you don't repair or look after your gear it simply stops working.

It is different because unlike gear there would be a timer behind it. Or are you saying that the gear will be completely destroyed if someone does not repair it? There is quite the difference here. One is a must pay at certain times to even completely keep it and another is the "you should repair it if you want to do damage" deal. Also if you have crafters you can repair it yourself too or you just run a dungeon and get a new gear without paying for the old. In the end nothing in the game gets destroyed/taken away from you if you dont pay the fee (other than the sub but even then you will still have your character if you log back in). I mean if you had said that certain functions would not be avaible anymore as long as someone does not pay the rent (like the stables) then you could maybe compare those two systems. But not in that state where one means the loss of the whole thing and the other just means that people might not like you in dungeons.

And I find repairs bad too. Its nothing but a way for them to take gil out of the game but in the end its just an annoying feature. x)

Also you still kinda did not answer why we even would need such an system? If they would abolish their timer and you need just one venture per day you will see less houses who will get freed since people could pay much more in advance. At the same time this does not annoy the house sellers enough to stop them from doing that, it will not stop most of the owners from having their house but would just add an annoying layer to housing itself..and since people can pay that one in advance you will have less houses that might free themselvers and since they dont need to be subbed SE will lose money too. I mean it might be nice if you want to take a break but that is truly the only good thing about this. Otherwise its just an annoyance..and if people can just pay in advance they can just abolish all the systems and let us just keep the houses..

And what will happen if they say that 1 per day is not enough and make it 10 per day? Or even more? Its not like SE just takes your idea and just go with it..heck they could even keep the timer at the same time..so your idea would have made it even worse for the people.

IMO if they want to make sure that houses are freed from players that are no longer playing then they could just simply say that as long as someone pays their sub they will not lose it because they are still paying for the game. This way they could still say that you will lose your house if your sub lapses for more than 45 days and people could still take a break because they simply have to make sure that they have a sub ready. So I could take a long vacation or if something bad happened to me I could simply give the instruction of subbing more or even using a automatic sub. Nobody would have to log in and go to the house.

[Sashazor]

Absolutely not. A maintenance fee is extremely unfair for those who save up for months to buy a house, and most of us aren't making that money monthly. This would be sustainable for an FC, maybe, but for individual players? It just seems like punishing them for being able to get a house. People come to a game to relax, they don't need "fees" to put unnecessary stress on them with the risk that they may lose what they worked hard for.

There's just nothing to gain from this, house flippers would continue to flip. Not to mention the people who use housing arguably the most are roleplayers, and most roleplayers are, you know, roleplaying, not making money. People who play casually would struggle too. It's just unfair.

[Siniztor]

You already have to pay a maintenance fee on all your gear. Either by way of a npc repair guy scattered around or by buying dark matter to keep your gear in good condition.

If you don't repair or look after your gear it simply stops working.

It's really no different at all than a leading/rental/mainteneace system on housing plots.

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HAHAHAHA are u kidding me??? "have to pay a maintenance fee on all your gear" NO you dont....sit your but in any city and guess what your gear will be just fine...we pay because we use our gear in battles and get beat on its called repair from damage taken during battle. We dont have battles with our houses no one s attacking our lands lol'

Big NO on fees for some thing bought not leased