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Thread: House Payments

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    None of this proposal is going to free up more housing or stop the resellers. All it will do is make it a pain for those players/FCs fortunate enough to already own a house. The problem is not that there are unused housed or plots which the demolition timer manages reasonably well. The problem is there isn't enough housing for those players that want it and there are no band-aids that will change that fact. SE has multiple options they could use to resolve the housing crisis but for whatever reason in the past they decided not to take any significant action. The only fix is for SE to step up and look at a permanent solution or nothing will really change.
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    This proposal is just going to drive RMT up the wall if the payment is via Gils. Then again, it also puts it as a rental system for the players and like the others that have commented before, it holds the players accountable to a certain amount of time to play. I highly doubt anyone will want that especially if they are going through something in real life. In all honesty, the sale of Stormblood and the record high number of average subscribers should already give SE enough revenue in order to expand and upgrade the servers to allow for more housing.

    Which we are getting, since the enormous blowout from the community on all languages. Regardless, we just have to wait for this Friday to see what they have in store. But most likely it is just more wards, with a lottery system or timed-purchase system in place so everyone does not need to login at 3am just to get the houses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VthMillion View Post
    Which we are getting, since the enormous blowout from the community on all languages. Regardless, we just have to wait for this Friday to see what they have in store. But most likely it is just more wards, with a lottery system or timed-purchase system in place so everyone does not need to login at 3am just to get the houses.
    I would not hold your breath were gonna hear the housing plan this Live letter, remeber there is 2 live letters before the patch this is live letter 1. As Yoshi has all ready said they don't wanna release info to early cause people will prepare

    So my guess if housing is mentioned in this letter it will be the basic info we have gotten thru interviews A- More wards to each city B= New way to buy them but not saying what..

    This live letter wil probly mostly be relic and glamuor related just my guess
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    Last edited by Siniztor; 12-13-2017 at 02:50 PM.

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    you really want that player has to pay for the own house every month? xD holy moly.

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    then you can charge this "rent" on empty houses, not on houses used almost daily. I don't like the idea at all. we're paying RL money for the game, the mogstation is awash with overpriced stuff - SE can just front up with the goods as far as housing goes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChameleonMS View Post
    This would just cause FC leaders to kick people out of the FC to lower the price. If such a system existed, we know that the pay time would be set to for the weekly reset timer. Or 1st of the month kind of thing.
    FCs will just coordinate a kick of members the night before, and invite everyone back the next day.
    It also punishes FCs that do not kick inactive members during their breaks.


    I am against the fee idea in the first place.
    Oh I know. My comment was a bit sarcastic since it was fine for the poster since they are in a FC (thus there would be more people to split the price of the rent thus less rent per person) so I kinda pointed out that they also could include something where everyone had to pay the price. Its bad like the whole idea is (imo) but wanted to show how bad it could possible go.

    Quote Originally Posted by LusterlessNova View Post
    Well I got a lot to reply to, which feels like work, so how about a thought from another angle instead?
    So the common opinion is that the prices would rise, right? Let's say as example: To the at least 3-fold value (probably higher, just deal with it for now). I can't help but wonder, but isn't it against the terms of service to sell houses for large profit? Large isn't defined, sure, but wouldn't writing tickets help get houses off profit sellers if the prices go way over a reasonable price? Just wondering.
    First people are already selling it for way too high prices without any problems so why would that truly change? And second you again only look at this on the angle of sellers. Please dont forget all the other people that will lose their house if they ever implemented a price that would be so high that it would need a raise in price..Nobody will care about sellers anymore because those that can pay it will either do that or decide that its too much of a hassle. And the rest of crowd will not even be able to finance that. Well yes you will probably kill of the selling market..by killing the whole system with it and make it a "rich only"..or increase the whole RMT..
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    Last edited by Alleo; 12-14-2017 at 01:59 AM.
    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

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    This hate towards wealthy players :comfy:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirch View Post
    This hate towards wealthy players :comfy:
    Where exactly are people hating on wealthy players? We are just not fine with the idea because it would only leave really wealthy players and RMT buyers to use the content. This does not mean that we dislike people for having the Gil. (I do have a big sum of Gil too but I would still not be able to handle big fees constantly) So if you feel attacked maybe point out where people truly attacked those with Gil? Most of our concerns are just for those that wont be able to pay it not on those who might but thats not hate..
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    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

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    I do not support a monthly fee of any kind for housing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rinuko View Post
    This is probably the most stupid suggestion i've read on this forum over the years, and that says alot.

    Nothing justify me having to pay 1M gil per month for my Large house FC and another 1M for my private mediums on my main and my wifes account.

    It's not about the gil, I have plenty but having to pay a month sub AND now paying rent. It's laughable.

    You do not have my support.
    that's right NO SUPPORT this is very most stupid suggestion than we thought..... in the world this is very very stupid.... NO SUPPORT, GET OUT! I don't want fee montly because I was worked so hard for Hunts Mats VI.... well I'm not good gatherings and Crafts. so this is rage and very stupid! I just got med House my own
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