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    lol, rent, tax, at most its a nuisance.

    How about we also add a fee for maintaining a linkshell, or keeping an FC open, because hey I like that FC name, I want it for myself, lets have them pay a fee for in the hope they can't keep affording the gil so I can take it for myself, thats only fair right?
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    I would like some sort of house maintenance system, not forcefully gil, that you bave to do periodically or your house would be a trash can full of dust and spider webs
    It would be cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alien_Gamer View Post
    Lets try this from a different perspective.

    Or lets charge a rent on gear drops from savage, payable once per month with Ex token drops. Easily affordable if you do savage on a regular basis and if you don't then you don't need that gear anyway...
    Firstly way to completely over exaggerate the issue. A leading/ maintenance fee is nothing like your examples.

    Secondly this one I quoted is funny.
    Why? Because it essentially already exists. In the game. And it exists on ALL gear. Not just savage drops

    You already have to pay a maintenance fee on all your gear. Either by way of a npc repair guy scattered around or by buying dark matter to keep your gear in good condition.

    If you don't repair or look after your gear it simply stops working.

    It's really no different at all than a leading/rental/mainteneace system on housing plots.

    So in effect all you've really done is highlight the system basically already exists and adding it to housing instead of an auto demo timer wouldn't be that far fetched.
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    Last edited by Dzian; 12-18-2017 at 01:31 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post

    You already have to pay a maintenance fee on all your gear. Either by way of a npc repair guy scattered around or by buying dark matter to keep your gear in good condition.

    If you don't repair or look after your gear it simply stops working.
    It is different because unlike gear there would be a timer behind it. Or are you saying that the gear will be completely destroyed if someone does not repair it? There is quite the difference here. One is a must pay at certain times to even completely keep it and another is the "you should repair it if you want to do damage" deal. Also if you have crafters you can repair it yourself too or you just run a dungeon and get a new gear without paying for the old. In the end nothing in the game gets destroyed/taken away from you if you dont pay the fee (other than the sub but even then you will still have your character if you log back in). I mean if you had said that certain functions would not be avaible anymore as long as someone does not pay the rent (like the stables) then you could maybe compare those two systems. But not in that state where one means the loss of the whole thing and the other just means that people might not like you in dungeons.

    And I find repairs bad too. Its nothing but a way for them to take gil out of the game but in the end its just an annoying feature. x)

    Also you still kinda did not answer why we even would need such an system? If they would abolish their timer and you need just one venture per day you will see less houses who will get freed since people could pay much more in advance. At the same time this does not annoy the house sellers enough to stop them from doing that, it will not stop most of the owners from having their house but would just add an annoying layer to housing itself..and since people can pay that one in advance you will have less houses that might free themselvers and since they dont need to be subbed SE will lose money too. I mean it might be nice if you want to take a break but that is truly the only good thing about this. Otherwise its just an annoyance..and if people can just pay in advance they can just abolish all the systems and let us just keep the houses..

    And what will happen if they say that 1 per day is not enough and make it 10 per day? Or even more? Its not like SE just takes your idea and just go with it..heck they could even keep the timer at the same time..so your idea would have made it even worse for the people.

    IMO if they want to make sure that houses are freed from players that are no longer playing then they could just simply say that as long as someone pays their sub they will not lose it because they are still paying for the game. This way they could still say that you will lose your house if your sub lapses for more than 45 days and people could still take a break because they simply have to make sure that they have a sub ready. So I could take a long vacation or if something bad happened to me I could simply give the instruction of subbing more or even using a automatic sub. Nobody would have to log in and go to the house.
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    Last edited by Alleo; 12-18-2017 at 08:36 PM.
    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post

    You already have to pay a maintenance fee on all your gear. Either by way of a npc repair guy scattered around or by buying dark matter to keep your gear in good condition.

    If you don't repair or look after your gear it simply stops working.

    It's really no different at all than a leading/rental/mainteneace system on housing plots.

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    HAHAHAHA are u kidding me??? "have to pay a maintenance fee on all your gear" NO you dont....sit your but in any city and guess what your gear will be just fine...we pay because we use our gear in battles and get beat on its called repair from damage taken during battle. We dont have battles with our houses no one s attacking our lands lol'

    Big NO on fees for some thing bought not leased
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    Absolutely not. A maintenance fee is extremely unfair for those who save up for months to buy a house, and most of us aren't making that money monthly. This would be sustainable for an FC, maybe, but for individual players? It just seems like punishing them for being able to get a house. People come to a game to relax, they don't need "fees" to put unnecessary stress on them with the risk that they may lose what they worked hard for.

    There's just nothing to gain from this, house flippers would continue to flip. Not to mention the people who use housing arguably the most are roleplayers, and most roleplayers are, you know, roleplaying, not making money. People who play casually would struggle too. It's just unfair.
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