Eight Fixes to Make These Changes Good.

[DeadRiser]

I really am baffled by this Lancer Change. Honestly, how do you jump from Straight line multi target skills and High TP generation to Sacrifice Health to do more Damage.

I suppose it annoys me more that this kills the possibility of Dark Knight job than that is Gimps my Mains sustainability

Isn't that what Invigorate and Ferocity do? If I'm not mistaken...

[Kiote]

Isn't that what Invigorate and Ferocity do? If I'm not mistaken...

If they do it is currently completely unnoticeable. I use both skills all the time. Neither one of them has any significant impact on my HP.

[Jinko]

If they do it is currently completely unnoticeable. I use both skills all the time. Neither one of them has any significant impact on my HP.

Ya think that might be because your also using life surge ?

[Kiote]

Ya think that might be because your also using life surge ?

Never use it, I always do Speed Surge, but thanks for pointing out that that has been removed from the game.. Fantastic..

[Jinko]

Never use it, I always do Speed Surge, but thanks for pointing out that that has been removed from the game.. Fantastic..

-.- speed surge also replenishes HP doesn't it ?

Not to be an ass but if you don't understand what the current abilities do, how on earth do you presume to understand how the future ones works.

[Kiote]

-.- speed surge also replenishes HP doesn't it ?

Not to be an ass but if you don't understand what the current abilities do, how on earth do you presume to understand how the future ones works.

Speed surge heals rough 10-15 hp a hit. It would in no way mitigate a significant impact on health from a buff. If the impact of the health cost is not going to be significant then there is no reason to put it in the game.

[Jinko]

Speed surge heals rough 10-15 hp a hit. It would in no way mitigate a significant impact on health from a buff. If the impact of the health cost is not going to be significant then there is no reason to put it in the game.

Yes one is a buff for yourself and the other is a buff for the party.
I think the whole point is the buff mitigates the loss in HP, plus acts as a party buff to give HP back to the whole party everytime they land a hit.

Edit:- You are assuming that the new abilites will drain a great deal of HP from your character, which may not be the case, it could be no more or less than Ferocity and Invigorate currently use.

[RathSkybreaker]

Never use it, I always do Speed Surge, but thanks for pointing out that that has been removed from the game.. Fantastic..

Life surge still gives HP... and ferocity 2 takes off max 90 hp I think? one max tp doom spike 2 and your almost back to where you started... and tp regen is nuts on lancer so in reality the HP loss is so menial it doesn't matter.

[RathSkybreaker]

If they do it is currently completely unnoticeable. I use both skills all the time. Neither one of them has any significant impact on my HP.

-then you realize the same HP reductions probably apply to the new skills.-