Eight Fixes to Make These Changes Good.

[RathSkybreaker]

I'm a 50 lancer since dunesfolk was the big thing and frankly I'm loving these changes.. also as far as mage changes go, good, if the 50's are ok with it then so am I because in the end THEY will be the ones playing the job not me.. Also SE wants feedback ,yes, but they also want feedback thats worth something.. it's like someone is asking for help on physics and you don't know jack shit and in the end all you do is confuse them... Same thing goes with this, no experience, don't bother, because in the end you want the people in which the change will affect most speak out.. It's their feedback that counts, not us DD's, we should talk solely on content that pertains to us, to allow for a more streamlined and useful, heap of feedback.

[Kiote]

I'm a 50 lancer since dunesfolk was the big thing and frankly I'm loving these changes.. also as far as mage changes go, good, if the 50's are ok with it then so am I because in the end THEY will be the ones playing the job not me.. Also SE wants feedback ,yes, but they also want feedback thats worth something.. it's like someone is asking for help on physics and you don't know jack shit and in the end all you do is confuse them... Same thing goes with this, no experience, don't bother, because in the end you want the people in which the change will affect most speak out.. It's their feedback that counts, not us DD's, we should talk solely on content that pertains to us, to allow for a more streamlined and useful, heap of feedback.

First of all, I do this for a living so I do know what I'm talking about.

Second of all, these class changes shouldn't consider the people at level 50 any more than they consider the people at level 1. It is the people who have not yet leveled a class who have to deal with the impact of a drastic overhaul and the significant balancing issue it will cause.

A Conjurer who had to level up to 50 with only Aero and Stone will have a significantly harder time than a Conjurer that had all six.

A Lancer who loses a significant portion of their health every time they buff will be eaten alive if they try to solo a levequest that typically has cluster of three enemies at a time.

A Gladiator who can't put out remotely decent damage because all his skills are now defensive will never get the time bonus from completing a levequest.

There are more thing to consider when you do something like this than just the people who leveled the Job already.

[Jinko]

A Conjurer who had to level up to 50 with only Aero and Stone will have a significantly harder time than a Conjurer that had all six.

Explain how, although you have yet to reply to one of my posts in this thread... did you put me on ignore /sad panda face

If you are refering to the opposing element stuff then for all we know this may have been "abolished"

Back when we could put stats in one element all I used was Water.

[RathSkybreaker]

First of all, I do this for a living so I do know what I'm talking about.

Second of all, these class changes shouldn't consider the people at level 50 any more than they consider the people at level 1. It is the people who have not yet leveled a class who have to deal with the impact of a drastic overhaul and the significant balancing issue it will cause.

A Conjurer who had to level up to 50 with only Aero and Stone will have a significantly harder time than a Conjurer that had all six.

A Lancer who loses a significant portion of their health every time they buff will be eaten alive if they try to solo a levequest that typically has cluster of three enemies at a time.

A Gladiator who can't put out remotely decent damage because all his skills are now defensive will never get the time bonus from completing a levequest.

There are more thing to consider when you do something like this than just the people who leveled the Job already.

The only problem I have with this is the fact that the people who have leveled the jobs have played through 1-50 so at one point in time they were that noob........ if your just starting rank 30 ish fine stick your opinion but in reality main job mage's feedback should be of the highest priority.

[Kiote]

The only problem I have with this is the fact that the people who have leveled the jobs have played through 1-50 so at one point in time they were that noob........ if your just starting rank 30 ish fine stick your opinion but in reality main job mage's feedback should be of the highest priority.

People at level 50 will almost exclusively be using Job. They would be better off focusing their attention there. Classes are going to be utilized most often by people leveling up. Those are the people who the Dev team should be concerned about. If the skill sets are not viable for leveling up solo, people wont play.

[Jinko]

People at level 50 will almost exclusively be using Job. They would be better off focusing their attention there. Classes are going to be utilized most often by people leveling up. Those are the people who the Dev team should be concerned about. If the skill sets are not viable for leveling up solo, people wont play.

Xp party says hello.

In 1.20 we get a nice shiny party search feature too

[Kiote]

Xp party says hello.

In 1.20 we get a nice shiny party search feature too

While I agree MMOs should be more party focused. Unfortunately, even with a good search feature, most players prefer to Solo. It's a sad statistic of the MMO genre.

[RathSkybreaker]

People at level 50 will almost exclusively be using Job. They would be better off focusing their attention there. Classes are going to be utilized most often by people leveling up. Those are the people who the Dev team should be concerned about. If the skill sets are not viable for leveling up solo, people wont play.

pretty sure the way the system is set up to work is your on your class, and you use your job as an overlay to specialize your class.. meaning your still using the class..?

[Kiote]

pretty sure the way the system is set up to work is your on your class, and you use your job as an overlay to specialize your class.. meaning your still using the class..?

Yes, but your Class is supposed to be and effective stand alone version of your Job. The Job should push the class into a party mode. It should not be party dependent before you even have the Job.

[RathSkybreaker]

Yes, but your Class is supposed to be and effective stand alone version of your Job. The Job should push the class into a party mode. It should not be party dependent before you even have the Job.

you realize your getting the job really early on.. like level 30.. so early on.. you will start to see the effects of jobs.. 1-30 is going to be fine, in all honesty just cool your little taco and let's wait for the patches to hit.. as of now I think we are in good hands.. I just hope they fix this leveling BS.. and the way the game is going classes will not be like that.. Jobs are going to be a must, as it should be, because later on they will likely add other jobs so that each class has more options.. it makes sense.. why would you need a 50 lancer if there is a 50 DRG...technically its lancer/drg which I don't like the way that sounds .. seems redundant.. I wish the armory system would gtfo >_>