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  1. #1561
    Player NephthysVasudan's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    Enemies* btw

    Randomly suggesting corrections on anything to strangers on the internet can do that though. It's nothing to do with parsers in particular.

    For instance, grammar police as I exemplify.
    Microsoft Spell check for the win.

    And your comparing a computer forum post to a game. Nice try...but apple to oranges.
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  2. #1562
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    I would like a PERSONAL in-game parser. So I can improve my rotations and see where I'm going wrong or going right.
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  3. #1563
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    Quote Originally Posted by NephthysVasudan View Post
    Microsoft Spell check for the win.

    And your comparing a computer forum post to a game. Nice try...but apple to oranges.
    Nope, I'm comparing one internet interaction to another.
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  4. #1564
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    Quote Originally Posted by kikix12 View Post
    sorry, but anything short of high-difficulty content is not going to provide a lot of self-improvement...
    Where exactly in my post did I specify which content I want to be more difficult (Less brain dead)?
    I said it in a general term. As in everything needs to be considered, from solo content to group content.

    Quote Originally Posted by kikix12 View Post
    ... no one wants to look bad ... That's why they will try to get better once they see they do poorly. It's called a "shock therapy"... it is the quickest and most effective way to get better. The drawback is clear however that people with certain social or mental issues, like social anxiety or depression, may go the other way around.
    I understand what you are saying but sadly I rarely see this happening in-game.
    I'll give you an example. When someone is failing mechanics a lot or not using some of their skills/abilities and gets called out for it. What do you usually see them do?
    They either, defend themselves or rage quit. You'll rarely see someone apologizing and willing to learn. We even have a popular topic about these encounters in the forums.

    So letting people know that they are doing something bad isn't always going to make them want to improve. Not with the 'you don't pay my sub' mentality.

    By making parse public we will improve in the long run, but we'll go through a very harsh phase where kicking dead weight is allowed. Which is what the dev team don't want. Thus why they are trying to close the gap between good players and bad players first.
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  5. #1565
    Player NephthysVasudan's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    Nope, I'm comparing one internet interaction to another.
    There is a big difference between a forum post - and a 15-45min instance in-game.

    But since you like saying this apple is an orange...up to you.
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  6. #1566
    Player NephthysVasudan's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mature View Post
    I would like a PERSONAL in-game parser. So I can improve my rotations and see where I'm going wrong or going right.
    I believe I was informed by my mentor that "PERSONAL" use is OK....and readily available.

    My problem is the one where people turn it into a baseball bat and beat you over the head over with it.
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  7. #1567
    Player Dualgunner's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by NephthysVasudan View Post
    There is a big difference between a forum post - and a 15-45min instance in-game.

    But since you like saying this apple is an orange...up to you.
    There are differences, but there are similarities too.

    In both interactions its easy to provoke anger through being a nitpick. Whether it's nitpicking spelling or nitpicking dps; in both cases one can have an off day and in both cases if nagged about it will only turn the person in question hostile.

    To finish the adage: apples and oranges are both fruit, both grown from trees, and both can be big enough to fit in one's hand.
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  8. #1568
    Player NephthysVasudan's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    There are differences, but there are similarities too.

    In both interactions its easy to provoke anger through being a nitpick. Whether it's nitpicking spelling or nitpicking dps; in both cases one can have an off day and in both cases if nagged about it will only turn the person in question hostile.

    To finish the adage: apples and oranges are both fruit, both grown from trees, and both can be big enough to fit in one's hand.
    If you had read my initial post about parser's.....you'd see I'm not talking about "nit-picking"
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    Quote Originally Posted by NephthysVasudan View Post
    If you had read my initial post about parser's.....you'd see I'm not talking about "nit-picking"
    Honest question; Is the dps bad if a whm does more dps? Second, do you think you are a good whm?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yeol View Post
    Where exactly in my post did I specify which content I want to be more difficult (Less brain dead)?
    Well, many people that have issues and actually need to improve themselves just won't do the difficult content that they could improve in. This game is very casual friendly, and that have both its ups and downs in that respect.


    I said it in a general term. As in everything needs to be considered, from solo content to group content.


    Quote Originally Posted by Yeol View Post
    I understand what you are saying but sadly I rarely see this happening in-game.
    Yes, unfortunately. However, that is partially because they know that even if that one party won't finish the duty with them, the next one will, or the one after that. If they had little option but to get better or get locked out, they would actually try to get better, even if just enough to "pass" the "basic effort" the parties would expect.

    As I said, it may have many bad effects for certain people, but there are many bad effects for certain people with how the way it is now as well. And the way that most people are held back, often without even knowing that, is even bigger problem.
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