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  1. #1581
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    Liza Sol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonrage53 View Post
    and split the community in a bad way.
    Non parser or better yet people not willing to learn or actually drag people down already do this. Exampel today:

    Someone in the group asked the person who said they know the fight in a farm group, given chance to forfill their role and actually not wipe us. After 3 wipes, they asked the person how the mechanic works and they replied with - as you can see here ''ignore you and learn the mechanics''. Those people gladly split the community alone, you don't need a parser to do that. This is a brutal honest example of how many anti parser think is acceptable too. And this was supposed to be a farm group. Now imagine many times in the days when sephirot extreme was still fresh, people hit ENRAGE multiply times, yet there is
    7PLD and 1 SCH beating it before enrage and look at the date too... Don't you think that people who gladly are unwilling to learn to play, already split themselves from others? You can see it here on the forum, reddit etc. And you can probably tell by my post, I don't think it's acceptable. How can 7 PLD and 1 SCH beat sephirot extreme? You can explain and then explain why 4 dps couldn't do it.

    Video of 7 pld and 1 sch
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    Last edited by akaneakki; 12-04-2017 at 07:18 AM.

  2. #1582
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    Sylvina Eon
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    No in game parser unless it only shows your dps and nobody elses and only to you.
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  3. #1583
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    I would actually like to have a solo in-game parser. I think that would be pretty nice, then I could compare myself to other players in the same role, and upload my own numbers into Fflogs.

    I say this as I realize that I haven't been parsed in about a month, and the majority of my other ones came back in October. So yeah...I want a solo parser.
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    Last edited by KaivaC; 12-04-2017 at 04:04 PM.

  4. #1584
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    Culinarian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvina View Post
    No in game parser unless it only shows your dps and nobody elses and only to you.
    So let's say you find out later on a tank did more than you, like he actually says his number in the group. What would your response be as a DPS?
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  5. #1585
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    Fhaerron Kobayashi
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Yes so I can measure myself easier / better.

    One of the reasons I like to play MMO's is because you get better, your ilvl goes up and I always strive to become a better player, increase my skill, part of that is also increasing the amount of damage I deal regardless the fact that I'm a tank, we deal damage too and I always strive to take the maximum out of it.
    At least we have ACT but an official in-game parser would be easier (and maybe more accurate), like there's not really an open API where the addons can take info from (which is also the reason why there are basically no addons for this game)?

    I don't really see why this is a problem, is there something wrong with me for liking to improve myself and like having a number to show my DPS and how much it goes higher as my ilvl and my skill to play the job better improves?
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  6. #1586
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoodRat View Post
    I like how people think adding an official parser in a game where people are already using parsers is going to make it toxic when most of the toxicity is coming from casual players who probably aren't even using parsers.
    Case in point, I was attempting to farm Shinryu yesterday and we got a mouthy MCH who called out a few people and had the gull to claim if people didn't die we'd skip the second Tidal Wave. The Monk, who died twice, still out-DPS'd him. And when I looked over their gear, said Monk was full 320 crafted while the MCH was various bits of 330-340 and I think one 320 ring. Clearly he wasn't parsing or he'd have kept his mouth shut. Amusingly, no one died on a subsequent pull and we didn't skip that Tidal Wave. Granted, since the healers weren't DPSing at all, it didn't help. That being said, it just goes to show the people often whining aren't the ones parsing.
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  7. #1587
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    Mirchea Luslec
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    Odin
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    no need parsers ingame, it's either kill or be killed, if u kill before u get killed then you good, if u get killed before killing then improve. "how to improve then?" that's your problem, stop cry like babies, no talk and git gud.
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  8. #1588
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirch View Post
    no need parsers ingame, it's either kill or be killed, if u kill before u get killed then you good, if u get killed before killing then improve. "how to improve then?" that's your problem, stop cry like babies, no talk and git gud.
    I wil say it again, most content can be done with 7. Even 2 players can have 1k to 1.5k dps less than 2 top dps and they can still beat the content. That's not the case here. People need to stop leeching.
    Also when i farm, i rather 6 min runs over 10 min runs, by the time i did 2 runs on 6 min im doing 3-4 on the 10 min run. Also another example is, when you do content its team effort, not to put burden on some other players because you think its okay to do, so no buddy, you are very wrong.
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  9. #1589
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    Baradaeg Ryssbhirwyn
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    Lich
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    Warrior Lv 80
    For Dungeons, 24mans and Trials i wouldn't like an ingame parsing tool including leaderboards and personal rankings.

    For normal Raid and SSS i would like an ingame parsing tool with full analysing possibilities from fflogs for personal only, including anonym leaderboards and personal rankings.

    For Savage, Ex Trials and Ultimate I would like an ingame parsing option including the full analysing possibilities from fflogs and a full replay option with free camera movement. Including anonym Leaderboards and Rankings.

    If an analysing possibility like fflogs is not included the complete parsing has no value and is only for e-peen stroking.

    If i give a tool to the community it is their responsibility to use it like intended and they have to face the consequences of missuse and abuse.
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    Last edited by Legion88; 12-04-2017 at 07:14 PM.

  10. #1590
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirch View Post
    no need parsers ingame, it's either kill or be killed, if u kill before u get killed then you good, if u get killed before killing then improve. "how to improve then?" that's your problem, stop cry like babies, no talk and git gud.
    Uh...no. Parsers are to help you improve your own DPS. Obviously, it's kill or be killed - you don't need a parser to tell you that. But a lot of players want to improve their own personal DPS. And need I remind you that you don't necessarily have to be at fault in order to be killed. O2S and O3S make it perfectly clear that one person can easily cause a raid to completely wipe. It's not a simple black and white solution.
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