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    SargeTheSeagull's Avatar
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    Rad Calidum
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    I'll be that guy. I've been playing wow for around two years now, a game in which literally everyone uses a parser. I've encountered actual toxicity due to dps/hps maybe twice. Maybe. The vast majority of the time whenever someone mentions someone's damage or healing they give actual advice and don't say shit like "you're so bad, uninstall, unsub you dirty noob" or whatever the stereotype is. 14 absolutely should have one. At least make it in ex/savage and only for the people who turn it on. If they added one that only logged your damage when you opted in I honestly don't see the downside. The number of people at 90 who have no clue how to play their jobs is downright frightening and if there were a way of telling who needs tips that could only go well. If someone doesn't want anyone to see their numbers, theoretically, they could just turn it off. Hell the devs could even add an in-world leaderboard and give each party (that opts in) a score based on how cleanly or fast they cleared a given fight.
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    DayHealer's Avatar
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    Day Healer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    Except the time and effort spent in blaming others has historically been higher when the facts of the matter are not shared and self-evident? Group-wide parsers literally reduce the finger-pointing
    Citation needed.
    Also believe me, one time parsers become available in this game, the blame shaming and kicking out from groups will rise astronomically.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dakam View Post
    and being unable to tell them anything or even kick them in fear of being reported and warned/banned is kind of infuriating.
    Like clockwork.
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    Mosha Mina
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    Quote Originally Posted by DayHealer View Post
    Citation needed.
    Also believe me, one time parsers become available in this game, the blame shaming and kicking out from groups will rise astronomically.
    Already happens lmao just with more gaslighting.
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    It wouldn't make the game more fun, and it would make people more shitty.
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    Asuka Kirai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taliriah View Post
    It wouldn't make the game more fun, and it would make people more shitty.
    Potentially. But then the ToS would still apply regardless, so those that would use it as an outlet to be an even worse individual certainly wouldn't be around long.

    Anything that would occur as a result of parsing being made official already does happen courtesy of third-party parsing. The only difference is that if they were to do it in-house and native to the game then they themselves would be able to moderate it, and it would give a basis for console players, and players that don't engage in third-party utilities to know how they are doing.
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    Dal S'ta
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    Potentially. But then the ToS would still apply regardless, so those that would use it as an outlet to be an even worse individual certainly wouldn't be around long.
    So, do you think a permanent ban for players who quote or reference an Official Parser in any chat or messages would be ok?
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    Maya Jcb
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    So, do you think a permanent ban for players who quote or reference an Official Parser in any chat or messages would be ok?
    Why the hell would you get a permanent ban for telling someone they are underperforming ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Why the hell would you get a permanent ban for telling someone they are underperforming ?
    Because they want this game to cater to carebears
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Why the hell would you get a permanent ban for telling someone they are underperforming ?
    So, that's a "no" because you believe it is your job to complain to another player about numbers they can see themselves.

    So much for the argument that an Official Parser would be used for self-improvement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    So, do you think a permanent ban for players who quote or reference an Official Parser in any chat or messages would be ok?
    sure if they went "GREY PARSER LMAO [FFLOGS LINK] SLUR SLUR SLUR"
    I'm being hyperbolic but I think most people wouldn't be cruel to someone just for underperforming in terms of DPS. You tend to get a more toxic attitude when someone constantly fucks up the same mech in a reclear party and then is shitty when called out on it.
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