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    Zarabeth's Avatar
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    Kaylee Frye
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    Leviathan
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    Seriously? Again with this? They are never going to add an in game parser no matter how hard you cry.
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    Hyomin Park
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    Sage Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by Zarabeth View Post
    Seriously? Again with this? They are never going to add an in game parser no matter how hard you cry.
    Doesn’t mean people can’t discuss it.
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    Sage | Astrologian | Dancer

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    Player RiyahArp's Avatar
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    Riyah Arpeggio
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    If the community wants one, they should have it. I think any form of callout or overlay software would be bad, though.

    However, the community must be responsible and own the fact that, as we are now, it will not be used to help players. It will be to avoid the threat of being banned for saying you are kicking people for low dps and select players out of a pool. That will mean less raid participation, and with the danger we start selecting in casual content too. They will be a much harder form of exclusion than gear checks in PF are. If ppl dont realize this and try to counter or mitigate these things, it will hurt players a lot. Everything will be skip soar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarabeth View Post
    Seriously? Again with this? They are never going to add an in game parser no matter how hard you cry.
    Seriously? Again with this? They are never going to stop discussing parsers no matter how hard you cry.
    Quote Originally Posted by RiyahArp View Post
    Everything will be skip soar.
    What's wrong with that? The dps required to skip soar is incredibly low, literally all it requires is a good opener and your class's basic rotation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoodRat View Post
    *snip*
    All arguments aside, your character is adorable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarabeth View Post
    All arguments aside, your character is adorable.
    Now I feel slightly better about not changing race because I don't have the gear to fit this glamour I want to do.
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    Player RiyahArp's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoodRat View Post
    What's wrong with that? The dps required to skip soar is incredibly low, literally all it requires is a good opener and your class's basic rotation.
    I have yet to see anyone seriously consider that if a lot of people had struggled to do what they find basic, maybe that thing isn't all that basic after all. People who are good at something generally suck at being unbiased at a thing's difficulty level, because they can't separate their particular talent from the thing being done.

    But what I meant was the whole toxic culture that grew about it. Endless griping and complaining and exaggerating how easy something was or how bad others were.
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    Last edited by RiyahArp; 12-02-2017 at 12:03 PM.

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    Shion Sumeragi
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    Gilgamesh
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    Samurai Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by RiyahArp View Post
    I have yet to see anyone seriously consider that if a lot of people had struggled to do what they find basic, maybe that thing isn't all that basic after all.
    There is a huge difference between "struggling to do something" and "can't be bothered to do something."

    People are lazy. The average person can't even bother being polite.
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiyahArp View Post
    I have yet to see anyone seriously consider that if a lot of people had struggled to do what they find basic, maybe that thing isn't all that basic after all. People who are good at something generally suck at being unbiased at a thing's difficulty level, because they can't separate their particular talent from the thing being done.

    But what I meant was the whole toxic culture that grew about it. Endless griping and complaining and exaggerating how easy something was or how bad others were.
    I learned how to do the HW Dragoon rotation in less than a week simply through looking up Youtube videos. What's stopping anyone else from doing the same? A basic opener wouldn't even entail the more advanced micromanagement people do like shifting around Blood for Blood for that extra 20ish DPS. It's literally the very basics of how to play your job. Hate to say it but you have no business being in EX Primal fights if you can't do the basics of your job.
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    Liza Sol
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    Culinarian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by RiyahArp View Post
    thers were.
    When a 15 year old can do a great opener or yet; a disabled person playing with their feet, managed to do the old MCH opener
    whats your excuse for not doing it?
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