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    Whoooooah, wait a second, did we just forget about the incredible Blood Price nerf? I'm not going to crunch every little bit of numbers to see if 5% darkside damage makes up for Blood Price being horribly, well...horrible, but I reaaally don't think it does.

    I'm very much not on the DoT removal side of the fence because I encounter situations daily where I'd see them as incredibly useful, on demand ways of doing damage while you're not present. Some classes make a more meaningful use out of them, but that doesn't mean in their base form they're just buttons to push. That being said I do understand the counter argument, yet Dark Knight WAS NOT COMPENSATED. Pre or post 60, by any means. God, especially pre 60. Unleash as AoE! Ha! Can't just Scourge packs of 4 or less anymore. Bloodspiller and Delirium are already questionable boosts to damage as it is, there is no way in hell they and some magical 5% darkside make up for Scourge, Low Blow, Reprisal, Dark Passenger, and Blood Price.

    5% darkside...jesus, I think that's many of our worst fears, is that's an acceptable way to compensate Dark Knight, and if we're complaining the answer is to just boost it by another 5% or so. Threads like this trying to outline why Scourge is important is a way of fighting THAT scenario. I'm not sure everyone is married to the idea of Scourge being back, but there's a reason we're not seeing "let's make Darkside have more % on it!" threads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valdegarde View Post
    Whoooooah, wait a second, did we just forget about the incredible Blood Price nerf? I'm not going to crunch every little bit of numbers to see if 5% darkside damage makes up for Blood Price being horribly, well...horrible, but I reaaally don't think it does.
    It was more of a rework to how you gain resources in Grit than a nerf. In single target you get double MP from Syphon Strike compared to no Grit to make up for less MP from Blood Price, and in aoe you gain Blood that goes towards Quietus.
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    Last edited by Launched; 11-28-2017 at 04:18 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Launched View Post
    It was more of a rework to how you gain resources in Grit than a nerf. In single target you get double MP from Syphon Strike compared to no Grit to make up for less MP from Blood Price, and in aoe you gain Blood that goes towards Quietus.
    What about single target, gritless situations? The ones where...Dark Knight is trying to actually focus on damage?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valdegarde View Post
    What about single target, gritless situations? The ones where...Dark Knight is trying to actually focus on damage?
    Single target Blood Price didn't give a huge amount of MP. Now you're getting Blood from Souleater for Bloodspiller. Edit: and Blood from Blood Weapon too.
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    Last edited by Launched; 11-28-2017 at 04:37 AM.