With all this DRK feedback, can we get Scourge back please?

[Launched]

What about single target, gritless situations? The ones where...Dark Knight is trying to actually focus on damage?

Single target Blood Price didn't give a huge amount of MP. Now you're getting Blood from Souleater for Bloodspiller. Edit: and Blood from Blood Weapon too.

[Chrono_Rising]

Because, as has been stated multiple times, a dot to apply and upkeep would actually break up the combo monotony that is Dark Knight at the moment. Two birds one stone. Dark passenger also needs love, but it doesn’t solve the rotation being reduced to constant SE spam.

[Crater]

Just to repost it: Dark Knight currently applies zero high-uptime debuffs. Wringing your hands over Ohhh, there's a debuff cap, won't somebody PLEASE think of the debuff cap?! at the prospect of a class going from zero debuffs to one debuff is so flagrantly ridiculous that it's difficult to believe anyone could seriously expect the argument to be taken seriously for even a second.

Ruining a thread over it for multiple pages, getting increasingly more and more pedantic and logically unhinged, can't really be explained in any way other than "This person is trying to deliberately poison the discussion."

My advice? Just ignore it. Every post at this point has been thoroughly refuted long before it's actually posted.

[Crater]

Miasma II often has 60-80% uptime on purely single-target encounters.

You lose about 55-60 potency every time you use an oGCD between two Broils, but only 30 potency if you exchange one of those Broils for Miasma II.

[Chrono_Rising]

If people don’t like scourge as a GCD to be maintained, how would people feel about it being an oGCD skill more like circle of scorn?

[whiskeybravo]

If people don’t like scourge as a GCD to be maintained, how would people feel about it being an oGCD skill more like circle of scorn?

Wasn't there some concern about the limited amount of GCDs available to "hold" a dark arts?

[Chrono_Rising]

Yes, but scourge doesn’t have a dark arts effect so I don’t think it would apply in this case. It would however increase our double weaving, I’m not sure it would be significant however.

[whiskeybravo]

Yes, but scourge doesn’t have a dark arts effect so I don’t think it would apply in this case. It would however increase our double weaving, I’m not sure it would be significant however.

My apologies if it wasn't clear, I meant that having scourge on the GCD would give you another option for possibly holding a DA if you needed. But I suppose it might not be an often-enough used GCD to make a big difference in that regard.

[Crater]

Honestly I feel like most of the interesting and fun things about Scourge were related to it being a non-combo, GCD-based DoT, including the aesthetic elements of the animation, which would be constantly truncated as an oGCD ability. If they were to restore a lost skill as an oGCD, I'd probably rather have something more like the original Reprisal or Low Blow, or even just a particularly good rehabilitation of Dark Passenger.

I don't know if there's really much of a backlash against the DoT management aspects of Scourge though.

[Chrono_Rising]

@Crater, I also prefer the dot management system to the oGCD.

@Whiskeybravo oh I see what you mean, I think it would work nicely on giving us two consecutive GCDs that don’t eat a dark arts. It would work well in that case since it would line up with Carve and Spit as well.