I agree with this point. However what is wrong with allowing others to acquire similar gear at the same ilvl? Not the same exact gear mind you, but similar (different stats/looks come to mind) It won't affect how anyone plays the game. Raiders will still raid, casual's will still be casual. I should also mention that I was a hard core raider at one point in my gaming career. So I get that raiders want to feel accomplished ... I really do. I don't mind raiders getting exclusive looks or gear, but wanting the best ilvl gear kept to a small portion of the community is rather selfish. But then again we do live in a "its all about me society."