Tank dps harrasment

[HyoMinPark]

The thing about opt-in is that it will not get rid of the harassment that does occur. If someone wants to be a jerk, they will be one regardless; FFLogs be damned. It will not remove the aspect of players looking up logs; any logs that show up as hidden, like others have said, will still carry a negative connotation--e.g., "you've hidden your logs because you have something to hide" is the basic mentality people will probably use. Opt-ins and opt-outs will not fix that issue.

Of course, all of this is speculation and cannot be proven--and I do mean my post and yours. I honestly did not know about FFLogs until I started posting on here; I'd never heard it mentioned in-game before. The best way to limit harassment in a way that will not negatively affect the game is to do what others (and GMs) have suggested: report harassment, blacklist, and move on. Rather than start crusades against a group of people all because of one bad apple.

[Awha]

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As I have said it will not get rid of all harassment that occurs, but if it has the potential to limit even one case of harassment how is that a bad thing? For examples not sure if it was this thread or another but someone asked to join a group and instead of just being told no, they mocked them because of their numbers they had on FFLogs.

According to this person they had no idea what FFLogs were. Sure they can report and blacklist, but if FFLogs were opt in, said player may have never had to experience it. We do not know you are right.

I know it is silly, but I just did not see what is so wrong with trying to take preventive measures where it is reasonably possible. Also does not make sense how a feature that is not supported by SE has to be opt out of instead of in. As I have said before it will not fix everything but if it does prevent issues like the above example and has no real effect on the game experience that SE has crafted then why not.

Also if a feature is not integrated into the game by SE why should one be expected to go out of their way to not take part of it. I mean to hide your data on the site you need to register an account with the site, claim your characters then go to settings to hide your logs. According to https://www.fflogs.com/help/hidingcharacters

Leaving the risk of abuse aside, why is that reasonable for a player to do that does not wish to take part in something that is not part of the base game?