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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    So strangely enough your post is attempting to silence those that have gone through such abuse, so you are sort of doing what you claim you dislike. So maybe my claim of your being disingenuous was a little on point.
    No I am not. No where have I said to anyone that it is "silly" that they have posted their experience or opinion just because I don't agree with it nor have I told anyone they are undermining people just for posting their opinions and experiences.

    I am also not labeling anyone "disingenuous" for just posting their experiences and opinions either which I guess you have clarified the definition you are using. You are accusing me of pretending? So in other words you are claiming I am lying in order to push my own opinion. Well, you're wrong. I have not lied about my experience so I am not pretending anything.

    I mean instead of using fancy words that have multiple meanings why not instead just plainly say what you want to say? If you want to call me a liar then call me a liar. I mean I guess it adds to the list: silly, undermining, disingenuous/lying.....got any more? All because I shared what personally happened in my 4 years of playing this game which led me to the opinion I hold about the frequency of parser harassment?

    All of these things seem like attempts to shame me into changing my opinion or to make me stop posting my opinion, which I already mentioned this in a previous post. To me that seems like you are trying to silence my opinion because you don't like it.

    I mean honestly how does me saying "in my experience parser harassment doesn't seem to happen frequently" silence those who have gone through such abuse? I never said that the abuse never happens. THAT would be trying to silence them by pretending it never happens, but I have not once said such a thing. I have never claimed that it never happens; all I said, multiple times now, is that I doubt the "frequency" of it due to my own personal experiences. This does not silence anyone. It amazes me how ridiculous this has gotten. Ever since my first post that you responded to I have been talking about frequency so don't try to claim I was talking about something else to artificially flip the argument in your favour. I have clarified I have always been talking about frequency.

    So you continue to label me all these things and you obviously don't like my opinion and my experience and you either want me to change my opinion or stop posting my opinion, it has to be one or the other. If it isn't one of those reasons then why do you insist on replying to me even though I told you you are arguing with a brick wall who won't listen to you and you have zero chance to change my mind on this? If I am wrong then tell me what is your true goal here? You say you are "fine" with my experience, but I honestly don't believe you. How can you be fine with it and in the same breath accuse me of "pretending"?

    So what now? Got any new labels or accusations to throw at me? Keep them coming, it is highly entertaining.

    PS. In my 4 years of playing this game as a very active player in all types of content, in statics, in PF pugs, in DF, I have not seen a single instance of a player being harassed with a parser. In my opinion this casts doubt on how frequently parser harassment occurs. This makes me believe that there isn't much else to be done to avoid said harassment since removing harassment 100% is a pipe dream. If harassment of any kind happens you use the tools available to you, you blacklist, you report to a GM, and you move on and not associate with those players. We should advocate people be nice to each other of course, but that doesn't mean everyone is going to listen.
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    Last edited by Miste; 11-21-2017 at 04:25 PM.