It's past time, Yoshi-P...

[Shurrikhan]

Look at it this way: if SE increases healing requirements to where the high end healers can barely dps, if at all, what do you think is going to happen to the healers who weren't dpsing in the first place?

This. The huge margin of potential downtime that makes the portion of healer globals spent DPSing is what allows skilled and unskilled healers to play the same content, while leaving both something to do at all times.

You can try to force improvement on those unskilled players, and that may even come to some success, but there's a good reason for where and how XIV has chosen to deal with derivative outputs (healing and mitigation), with both seeming largely undertuned in their requirements for most content, or overly intervallic for the remainder.

[Charisma]

Look at it this way: if SE increases healing requirements to where the high end healers can barely dps, if at all, what do you think is going to happen to the healers who weren't dpsing in the first place?

Is this supposed to be an excuse? Healer wise this is the worst MMORPG, i don't know any other MMORPG where you can sit on your hands all dungeon long, without healing anyone in your group. Also to answer your question, they will heal more? I'm pretty sure most of the so called lazy healer, just wan't to be healers, and not a half baked DPS with support skills

[Kacho_Nacho]

Content is not balanced around healers doing any damage at all, making healing harder would be the best thing that could happen to this game, but i doubt it's ever going to happen, so we have to live with the fact, that we are just merely supporters.

I'd like to be healing more. It certainly feels odd that I dps so much in your average run; but, then again, I came here from WoW.

Look at it this way: if SE increases healing requirements to where the high end healers can barely dps, if at all, what do you think is going to happen to the healers who weren't dpsing in the first place?

They'd cast more healing spells. I don't see the problem.

[Krotoan]

They'd cast more healing spells. I don't see the problem.

... No they wouldn't. They'd fail . REALLY HARD. If you up the difficulty curve, people aren't going to suddenly get better. You're just going to lose a lot of people who aren't that hardcore into the game. Raising the bar doesn't make the jumper jump higher, they have to be willing to put in the effort, and people who are just barely grazing it now aren't likely the kind who'd put in extra effort to hit the new standards. What will likely happen if you make healing harder is you're going to get more people playing DPS, or possibly tanks cause "healing is too much effort". Say hello to "ADVENTURER IN NEED: HEALER" permanently.

[Chiramu]

I agree with the OP, if someone likes the playstyle of a class that happens to be a tank, of course they want to play that class. You should not be forced to play something you don't like as much just because you are not min-maxing in peoples' dungeons/raids.

[HoodRat]

I agree with the OP, if someone likes the playstyle of a class that happens to be a tank, of course they want to play that class. You should not be forced to play something you don't like as much just because you are not min-maxing in peoples' dungeons/raids.

OP isn't talking about that though. If you go to the 43 page thread they mention, no where in there does anyone say anything about min/maxing. It's literally just people saying to do your best and not just the bare minimum, and for some reason the OP and other people are blowing it way out of proportion.

They'd cast more healing spells. I don't see the problem.

Back when the healer forums ran rampant with threads about healer dps, a common reason for healers not dpsing was that they [felt like they] didn't have time to dps because of all the healing they had to do. If the healing requirements increase, those same healers likely won't be able to adapt.

[JCharms]

... No they wouldn't. They'd fail . REALLY HARD. What will likely happen if you make healing harder is you're going to get more people playing DPS, or possibly tanks cause "healing is too much effort". Say hello to "ADVENTURER IN NEED: HEALER" permanently.

So you're saying, in a roundabout sort of way, that most healers in this game are clueless people and that they are mostly lazy? Because that's how that comes across.

[Dualgunner]

So you're saying, in a roundabout sort of way, that most healers in this game are clueless people and that they are mostly lazy? Because that's how that comes across.

Look at how powerful and potent heals are right now. Heal-only healers can get away with using very few of their GCDs in casual content because a lot of buttons will push a target to or above max HP. This is intentional in the game's casual design: healers don't have to try especially hard to keep people alive. So the people who look into minmaxing went to doing damage alongside healing.

If healing potencies were dropped so hard that even high end healers had no time to dps, that means that the people who are used to maybe pushing a few spells every few GCDs would then be overwhelmed with how much they actually have to heal.

[Selova]

This is not something that yoshi p or any of the developers can fix, this is a player created problem and it isn't something that is going to resolve itself anytime soon. This is the nature of the beast. Yoshi p and by extension the developers of this game cannot change how players play or their mindset, you're asking for the impossible. This really isn't a FFXIV exclusive problAlso, the people that post on the forums are not a good representation of the overall community, you're over-dramatizing how much this actually impacts your personal gameplay inside the actual game itself. There really isn't a solution to this kind of problem. The only thing you can really do to avoid it is to just straight up avoid being in groups that play with this kind of mentality and for those rare occasions where you encounter them in the DF, just ignore it and move on with your day, the chance of you encountering that player again is slim to none. Overall, this is not as big of a problem that you seem to think it is. That is all.em either, this mentality and meta game focused mindset is prevalent in all mmos.

[PArcher]

OP isn't talking about that though. If you go to the 43 page thread they mention, no where in there does anyone say anything about min/maxing. It's literally just people saying to do your best and not just the bare minimum, and for some reason the OP and other people are blowing it way out of proportion.

Well, the reason is obvious...they only want to do the bare minimum and let everyone else do the work for them.

Anyone who suggests that you should put some effort in and at least try to push yourself (even if its just trying to keep your dot up between heals, or switching stances for a few GCDs when you feel its safe on a boss) is an elitist and is ruining your game.