Tank dps harrasment

[Arkturius]

yes and no. You can't use parser/fflogs to kick ppl as those are against the tos. And would be consider vote kick abuse if you do.

Yoshi-p clearly stated using parser is a "don't ask don't tell" to not abuse it. Keep that talk in your static, not some random pf.

Actually yes you can as long as you list it as difference in playstyles

[Arkturius]

I wouldn't hold your breath. Players like him enjoy blowing things out of proportion, taking things out of context and twisting words to fit their narrative. He's going to keep making baseless assumptions on your skill as a player based on mere conjecture. His posts and people that post like him serve only one purpose: to stir the pot and troll people. Your better off ignoring anything hw posts. Sorry about your rough groups, just keep doing your thing. If you have that many weapons from shinryu, you clearly know what your doing. Take care.

Its not trolling hes just stating a fact that if its happened more than once there is clearly a problem on the OPs side

[Selova]

snip.

Honestly, from what we know based on the OP's post, they just got dealt a bad hand of cards and ended up in groups with not-so-savory individuals. There isn't enough information to start throwing out accusations about whether or not it was a problem with the OP or not. The person i quoted was claiming facts on the OP's situation on how they were being carried based on nothing but pure conjecture. It's obvious the OP is venting frustration and rightfully so, some of the people in this community can wear on your nerves fast, especially the "Meta fanboys" where you are treated like sub-human garbage if you parse anything below orange in non-savage/EX content. It's getting kind of old honestly.

[Arkturius]

I ask again nicely, please stop I didn't mean for this to become a parser/anti parser thread I just wanted to know why it was acceptable to get kicked out of dungeons/groups for tanking in shield oath and not doing "X dps" (or in my mind high end savage world first dps). But as I just asked, please just drop it I don't want anyone to be fighting.

Its just a difference in playstyles in order to counteract being kicked so much just work to improve your dps people wont change and the game is designed around healers and tanks doing more dps than youd think self improvement goes a long way and curbs what has happened to you as for df stuff and hunts noone knows but you may or may not have been the problem all it comes down too is the community said nay so just try you best to fix it

[Joe777]

If a Party Finder wants only people with good numbers on FFLogs they should state that in the Party Finder. Not doing so and suddenly kicking someone that joined for having bad numbers is indeed something they can be reported for. Frankly, as has been stated already, FFLogs is not condoned by Square Enix and therefore using it to judge people and exclude them for having bad numbers is a reportable offense, solely for using FFLogs as a reason. You say "git gud, problem solved", I say "griefing, report them". Simple as that.

[Arkturius]

If a Party Finder wants only people with good numbers on FFLogs they should state that in the Party Finder. Not doing so and suddenly kicking someone that joined for having bad numbers is indeed something they can be reported for. Frankly, as has been stated already, FFLogs is not condoned by Square Enix and therefore using it to judge people and exclude them for having bad numbers is a reportable offense, solely for using FFLogs as a reason. You say "git gud, problem solved", I say "griefing, report them". Simple as that.

The issue is people don't play jobs as intended or designed tank stance is literally only useful for prog or casual content outside of that using it just slows down everyone we will take fflogs out of the equation and just state op was literally in tank stance the whole time i will state personally outside of initial pull i will kick anyone doing savage content purely in tank stance

[Joe777]

The issue is people don't play jobs as intended or designed tank stance is literally only useful for prog or casual content outside of that using it just slows down everyone we will take fflogs out of the equation and just state op was literally in tank stance the whole time i will state personally outside of initial pull i will kick anyone doing savage content purely in tank stance

If someone in the group can do better it is within someone's rights to inform them where they can improve, with or without a parser. It's using the parser to judge people that is the violation. Now if after suggesting improvements they refuse to change/do better then you can kick them and they can't say otherwise. I myself sometimes notice someone using an improper rotation in a dungeon and give advice and tips and then let them grow off that at their discretion. It's just a dungeon, no big deal. If they haven't improved though by the time they got to endgame content, well, I tried to help them but they didn't take it to heart apparently.

[Arkturius]

If someone in the group can do better it is within someone's rights to inform them where they can improve, with or without a parser. It's using the parser to judge people that is the violation. Now if after suggesting improvements they refuse to change/do better then you can kick them and they can't say otherwise. I myself sometimes notice someone using an improper rotation in a dungeon and give advice and tips and then let them grow off that at their discretion. It's just a dungeon, no big deal. If they haven't improved though by the time they got to endgame content, well, I tried to help them but they didn't take it to heart apparently.

Or kick the person for difference in playstyles and replace them with someone else immediately as long as you dont say hey your dps is rubbish it has no link to parsing due to the nature that parsing is treated its safer to just kick instead of saying anything

[aesteval]

Or kick the person for difference in playstyles and replace them with someone else immediately as long as you dont say hey your dps is rubbish it has no link to parsing due to the nature that parsing is treated its safer to just kick instead of saying anything

Or you could just stick to being supportive and trying to help someone get better instead of writing them off and being a general...well, thing.