Tank dps harrasment

[Mavrias]

Yoshida even stated using parser/ fflogs as a vote kick reason is against ToS. Since fflogs/parser are against the Tos more so if used to harrass people.

Dont need a parser to see someone in tank stance the whole time lol.

[BigRed5392]

Dont need a parser to see someone in tank stance the whole time lol.

nothing wrong with tank stance. that just my two gil.

[Mavrias]

nothing wrong with tank stance. that just my two gil.

OP was kicked from Shin farms and hunt parties for doing low dps and being in shield oath too much by their own admission. PF leaders have the right to kick for literally any reason they choose. While theres nothing wrong with tank stance inherently, it is not harassment to be kicked from someone's party if they feel you shouldnt be in it so much. And it's very easy to see a tank is not doing as much dps as they could without using a parser if they are in sitting tank stance for the majority of a fight.

[Hannia]

If it was an assumption, I'm sure OP would have corrected me

I didn't really see a need to correct you being as I specifically stated I was kicked out of dungeons and hunts but if I needed to correct you here it is, I was kicked out of dungeons and hunt parties for "low dps". Also the shinryu ex thing I didn't even get to go into the fight they immediately looked at my logs and said "your ffxiv logs say your grey" and removed me from the group.

[Selova]

snip.

I wouldn't hold your breath. Players like him enjoy blowing things out of proportion, taking things out of context and twisting words to fit their narrative. He's going to keep making baseless assumptions on your skill as a player based on mere conjecture. His posts and people that post like him serve only one purpose: to stir the pot and troll people. Your better off ignoring anything hw posts. Sorry about your rough groups, just keep doing your thing. If you have that many weapons from shinryu, you clearly know what your doing. Take care.

[Hannia]

"DPS is just the DPS's responsibility" is the worst mindset to have. DPS is everyone's responsibility. If OP doesn't want to be discriminated against because of his fflogs rankings, he needs to git gud and improve them.

I never said anything about anything except OP's griefs about getting kicked from a shin PF.

I ask again nicely, please stop I didn't mean for this to become a parser/anti parser thread I just wanted to know why it was acceptable to get kicked out of dungeons/groups for tanking in shield oath and not doing "X dps" (or in my mind high end savage world first dps). But as I just asked, please just drop it I don't want anyone to be fighting.

[shao32]

snip

let me show you.

After 2 years tanks are being prove tanking on dps stance are much more rewarded that tanking on tank stance, why? Bcs you can survive and keep emity pretty easy without It, dps stance is meta, the dps gain is masive and the performance betwen both stances is unbalance.
while most ppl dont really care for others is like you being lazy or you dont know how to play you job properly.

As a tank main Who clear all excep ultimate i hate a lot this meta, but i accept the reward on follow It is pretty Big and tank stance tanking is almost pointless, unless SE change It theres is nothing we can do.
saddly there is no middle ground on this matter, if you follow the meta properly you can avoid all the drama from those Who Kick You, but if you stay on shield for everything Well... You have to pray the Next party only have ppl Who dont mind.

In the end its not a question ppl dont like you tank style (the whole thing of "tanking Styles" its just stupid) its a question of you tanking in a ineficient "Style" and some ppl dont like that.

[Shurrikhan]

I can only assume that they felt they could complete the dungeon in a significantly faster time with virtually any other tank, despite that replacement being equally random (meaning the stochastic average must have been well above, as their next replacement would have a guaranteed 5 minutes before being kickable, too) and requiring additional queue time, or they had a tank friend ready to go who they didn't bother to wait for or hadn't yet logged in previously, and were therefore more sensitive to any inefficiencies.

If the prior, though, I have to ask: Were you being disturbingly overcautious in your use of tank stance and excessive in use of enmity tools? Because, unless the run would literally be faster with another healer or DPS instead, I've yet to see a tank kicked for not dealing enough damage in a simple dungeon, despite having done thousands of dungeon runs. And even that tends to be because they're going afk all the time or are otherwise very slow to pull, making the time consumed absolutely apparent, not because of DPS itself.

...That or because they wanted to quickly get a friend their daily roulette bonus (I've reported several of these cases to no avail, after losing 1 to 2 in a kick vote just outside the final boss room over an until-then smooth run and having to wait for their friend to show up).

[Arkturius]

Im just saying this now i can literally go into end tier content with no knowledge of tanking and subpar gear and still show up on logs as blue button mashing basic combos out of tank stance grey logs are a pure sign that you are doing something wrong don't take the replies as insults go to fflogs and look at your rotation and improve it from there. The site isnt meant for epeen outside of 95% its used as a self help and development tool in order for you to improve how you play the game

[Arkturius]

Endplay the more you learn and develop your rotation the more desirable you are for parties across the board