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    Lilseph's Avatar
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    Shadow Link
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    Mateus
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by BigRed5392 View Post
    Actually it does,ppl where not up the tanks butt to stance dance all that much till alex gordias as it was punishing with hard dps checks. People tried to enforce it in other content after.

    Also if you actually read what I said, I personally don't care if tank is stance dancing or not. I also never stated no else should dps, reading a post in full kinda helps not have mis-understandings. It is the dps's role to do damage though. Not use tank as a scapegoat.

    I also never been kicked from pf groups either. And no your mindset is pretty garbage, if you read the op it looks like their using duty finder not pf. They already cleared shin ex, just farming the wing.
    Sorry for pointing this out, but I don't think it's "garbage" per se, it's just a different goal. Wether you agree or not, it's a different story. People like to push their jobs, because it extends their fun in-game, giving them an additional goal. "Did I clear X content? nice. Let's see how much I can optimize, push harder, and get better numbers". E-peen? Maybe. Fun? Perhaps. More things to do in-game? Not with the provided tools, but with the right ones: Yes. Also, I was pressed to do more DPS even back in FCOB for week-1 clears on my main character (Signature, thanks Hyomin for the template), so I don't think the tank DPS comes from Gordias, but before that.

    The encounters in this game resolve around DPS, with very extremely limited situations where heals do something (Shinryu X). Having both the tanks and the healers dealing extra DPS, not only speeds the process up and it's not that they can't clear if they don't push their numbers. It's matter of clearing faster, being optimal. Some people have that mindset and no condescending emotes (aka ) or derogatory remakrs will change that.

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    As for the OP, it sucks that people kicked you out FROM A DUNGEON because of that. I am close to the 10k instances clear myself and I've never seen such thing to happen. You probably were paired with some try hard fellas there. If they mentioned any parser during your run or actual numbers, you can report them. However, this attitude will never change. Just warning you.

    As a side note, it's extremely easy to swap/drop your tank stance. Do it at least once or twice as if it was an experiment and see how it goes. Just do your emnity combo once (if DA from DRK) or twice, or three times if needed, drop your stance and go ham on DPS combos. Go back to your tanking stance if you see the DPS are catching up aggro-wise. Bosses in instances barely do any damage, and with proper CD usage, you can get away with not using tank stance. I'm almost sure no one is expecting you to pull 3k+ DPS. It's not an unrealistic number at all, but it's dungeon content after all...
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    Last edited by Lilseph; 11-14-2017 at 09:26 AM.