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  1. #661
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    only use/save tripple-cast for heavy meachnics or the opener/pot

    try to save (normal) swiftcast for real emergencies or certain big mechanics/movements..

    but extending procs to 30 sec could possibly be more reliable for mechanics, and could maybe use swiftcast more often like after transposing (+ B4 , since often need mana tick ups after a transpose)

    blm could use fixes and QoL in quite a few areas
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    Remedi Maxwell
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiroe View Post
    using fire 1or 2 after transpose or in any ice astral should keep enochian up, but it doesnt..

    and imo it is an issue, that you have use fire 3 after transposing, or you lose enochian / foul build up.., that "hard cast" fire 3 after transpose is a pain, while after fire 1 there's at least a chance to proc

    not saying losing enochian under those circumstances is the "biggest" blm issue, but it is an issue and annoying
    It's not an ussie because it's how astral fire and umbral ice have always worked, they changed enochian to be tied to your timers which means that it come up with some positives and some negatives one of which is that, you either adapt or don't

    This can be a problem of yours but honestly I don't consider it deal breaking like the fact that we have less dps than a support job and changing that of enochian won't fix it for sure
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  3. #663
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    Lilila Lila
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiroe View Post
    only use/save tripple-cast for heavy meachnics or the opener/pot

    try to save (normal) swiftcast for real emergencies or certain big mechanics/movements..
    These are also the only situations where casting fire 3 after transpose would be unwise. You said you liked fire 1 because it gives you a chance for firestarter for mobility.
    Also you have 4 gcds per minute of free movement. Its not much but you have plenty of ability to plan things out.

    blm could use fixes and QoL in quite a few areas
    Not saying you're wrong, but I do feel you're off course. Flat potency buffs and a return of raging strikes would help.
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    Blackcat Ofillomen
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    Black Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    These are also the only situations where casting fire 3 after transpose would be unwise. You said you liked fire 1 because it gives you a chance for firestarter for mobility.
    Also you have 4 gcds per minute of free movement. Its not much but you have plenty of ability to plan things out.
    Spacing out Sharpcast to use as an instant is also a possibility.
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  5. #665
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    Also you have 4 gcds per minute of free movement. Its not much but you have plenty of ability to plan things out.
    as Blackcat said we actually have 5 if we play our cards correctly

    side note: man if leviathan EX was a 4.1 content it would've been extremely interesting with how the new surecast works
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  6. #666
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    yes, you plan things out, thats why you try not to wast swift or tripple after an often emergency transpose..
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    emergency trasponse are usually happening during the learning phase before you planned things out however
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    Black Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Shiroe View Post
    yes, you plan things out, thats why you try not to wast swift or tripple after an often emergency transpose..
    There shouldn't be a need for an emergency transpose once you've planned the fight out. You shouldn't ever need to transpose unless the boss is untargetable, they even made hitting for 0 refresh our timers. The jump/untargetable timing for fights you should know and have a swiftcast up. It's a really big mechanical change to either untie Enochian from af/ui or to make fire1 not remove ui at this point, and it's a lot of effort to put towards something that is really minor and not really necessary, while that effort can go towards balancing the class and fixing other parts of the kit that are come up much more often, including how bad b4 feels to use.
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  9. #669
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    yes, when the boss becomes untargetable, if swiftcast is up, like to use it as the last cast just before the boss is untargetable, than transposing..

    @ was always likw this, during HW, you did not lose enochian when casting fire 1 or 2 under any ice astral... it can be annoying, but it isnt a priority, just a qol we lost in SB
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    Whelp in a recent interwiew yoshida said they are fine with the job balancing, saying that they goal is for jobs to be adeguate for the content and making sure that the disparity isn't extremely big.
    Take from this w/e you will, imho he's right and wrong about this but meh kinda sad
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