Open world PvP Zone

[Geryth]

Open World PvP is almost always a one-sided bullying fest. And none of these ideas would make it better.

Some of the most gaming fun I've ever had was getting revenge on someone or a group of people who thought they'd gank around. Calling open world PvP "almost always" a one-sided bully fest is your anecdotal experience, and might indicate your actual experience with it isn't much.

You must not have ever tasted the glory of downing an open world boss in the midst of a PvP fight over it before. You're missing out.

[Seoulstar]

Just give a specific pvp server and everyone will be happy, don't want to pvp then don't join it~ Or you can add a pvp toggle, you can't be attacked by other players unless you go into pvp mode. I wish more would think about that instead of the worst case scenario of being forced to pvp.

[MarbleM]

I want a new title besides The Hand Of Mercy. 10k kill title please?

[Shirolumi]

1. Rival Wings is a 1v1 factions mode.
2. No. That just promotes bullying.
3. Double no.
4. Why even? Just leave if you don't want to be attacked.
5. That seems wholly unneeded.
6. Seriously no, we don't need FATEs in PvP.
7. You don't seem to understand what Beast Tribes are to suggest that.
8. "Bully them for more bonuses."
9. Why even. Just. Stop. We have an arena, we have ways of making in-game tournaments, what even is a PvP "mini-game"?
10 and 11. "Let's all just join one faction and bully anyone who's foolish enough to join the other side." ala Cerulean Order and Crimson Legion in Blade n Soul.

Open World PvP is almost always a one-sided bullying fest. And none of these ideas would make it better.

1. Rival Wings is objective based instanced PvP that last for prob 20 minutes, not a PvP zone.
2. Isn't that the point of being in the PvP zone? To PvP... if u can't attack each other there wouldn't be a point to it.
3. Add flying then. I just suggested that because I don't know how flying would work in a PvP zone. Can you attack someone on a flying mount? Does it dismount them? Does this give ranged an advantage? Etc.
4. So that you can flee from someone, heal yourself up etc, bring someone with you and attack.
5. This is so that you don't have to change factions of whatever if you want to PvP with friends that are in different factions.
6. Why not? I'd find them fun.
7. What are Beast Tribes then? I think that a Beast Tribe that introduces several factions (not just 2 like with the other beast tribes) would be a interesting idea. They'd all have their goals and reasons, would be a fun story with new objectives, not just the same old.
8. How is this bullying? People who WANT to PvP will enter this zone.
9. I don't know what a PvP mini-game would be. We don't have a way to organize tournaments in-game right now. We have custom matches, but no in-game brackets. So that's outside of the game. Yes we have an arena in the Wolves Den. One more couldn't hurt.
10 & 11. There are ways to work around that, maybe different rewards for different factions.

[Kisagami]

It isn’t “bashing” an idea to say that we don’t want the toxic players from other games coming here. In every game I have ever played that allowed some form of open world PVP, it was misused to troll and get revenge on people for petty things. Hell, In Black Desert all I was doing was riding my horse to my farming house and some jerk knocked me right off and tried to kill me and a bunch of other players right outside a main city. Camping the main roads.

And if you add fates and Beast Tribe quests to a PVP-only zone, it leaves those who love the storyline out of another part of the story. If you hate PVP and the behavior it brings out of people, like me, it is a whole zone I’ll never get to explore or be part of the story in. Cause everytime I try to participate in PVP and just have fun, like in ESO, it enda with me being harassed in whispers and stuff all because I patted them after they died >.<

[Shirolumi]

I get that Kisagami, that's why maybe you can toggle it off for a limited time, or also have the beast tribes allow PvE options, as long as those who like to PvP have the option to do it in the zone. I just wished we had more open zones as is, I wish diadem was a open zone already, it's a wasted zone right now since no one does it. Even if there is nothing to do there, I'd like to just hang there if possible. I don't think one pvp zone would suddenly bring toxic players from other PvP games to FFXIV.

But spawn camping, I get how that can be unfun for people. If we had a zone, I wish that SE would come up with something that could prevent that from players who doesn't want it as well. Patting someone after they died is kind of bad mannering though x) It's kind of like taunting people.

Anyway, I don't think a special zone for it would hurt the game. I always welcome variety. I don't raid much, but I'm glad we have Ultimate. I don't craft much, but I wish we had something more for crafters to do, or a zone with cool gathering mechanics. I just really like the PvP in this game, both the old and new one, and hope that we could have some more than just FL and Feast. Rival Wings, being this whole new thing, is a step in the right direction. It looks really fun. But in the end, I still have to queue for it. I wish I could just go to a zone and PvP there and get some Wolf Marks or whatever while I wait for queues to pop, a place where I can hang and PvP that is not the dueling circle in the Wolves Den.

[Evilsyndicatemember]

I want a new title besides The Hand Of Mercy. 10k kill title please?

Make it 20k because 10k will be too easy to hit.

[Synestra]

I would love a PvP zone.

If its something like Wintergrasp but without turrets and vehicles it would be pretty damn cool, attacking/defending factories with my buddy were most memorable things i did in wotlk, damn those 2vX fights were sometimes epic as hell even if it was just stalling. Maybe its time to rework Diadem yet again eh?

[uvuvwevwevweonyetenyevweugwemu]

It's a great idea, I doubt it's feasible tho. Open world PvP would outshined any form of objective pvp if it's free-form.
In other words, the duty finder would find less and less people. Unless they scrap to replace it, but then it would be server-based instead of datacenter-based.
We have to wait for cross-server open world first, maybe.

[Jellybums]

Just wondering how the open world PVP idea would even match the lore. It doesn't.