Built-in Parsers

[Dualgunner]

did anyone in the group notify people that standing in said spot can kill people? no? group fault.

Gave you like 8 scenarios earlier; Bourne gave a few more.

you guys are missing a lot of details in your explains such as planning before hand, run/strat explination, leadership. Which is part of doing endgame content. If people fail at doing this stuff they are part of the fault for the mistakes of others.

I'm gonna redirect you to the point from earlier.

how are people missing this part.

Because personal responsibility is a thing. Sorry you can't handle that fact.

3 ppl cherry picking posts is really nothing.

I hope you're not talking about me too. Quoting entire posts of yours and responding piece by piece is the opposite of cherry picking.

And yet you've yet to directly respond. Which is kind of a microcosm of the whole problem when you think about it: you have a preconceived notion of reality and ignore anything that contradicts that.

nor proof i "don't know what im talking about" I did endgame in ff11 for 4 years before this type of toxic environment with parser/third party tools killed it.

You're right: I don't have proof. But I'll give you this: You either haven't done the content and don't know what you're talking about, you've been blissfully unaware of being carried, or you're maliciously lying.

Also:

this type of toxic environment with parser/third party tools killed it.

You've now said parsers are bad. I will quote this every time you say "But I never said parsers are bad!" Might even stick it in my sig to drive a point home.

I very much know what im talking about, you guys are looking at semantics while leaving out details.

1. No clue what you're talking about because you haven't done it
2. No clue what you're talking about because of unaware carries
3. Malicious liar

Just because you're ignoring the details doesn't mean they aren't there.

Each member has a job to do, a role to play.

Agreed. It's not a DPS' fault when a tank doesn't mitigate a tankbuster, or a healer's fault when DPS stand in everything. It's not the pitcher's fault when the outfielders can't catch a popfly, nor is it the third baseman's fault when the first baseman fumbles with the ball. It's not the people in the box's fault when the person up to bat misses.

A leader still needs to be a leader and communicate. The leader is suppose to organize, communicate, discuss the plan of attack.

Who is the leader of a pug?

If the runs plan goes south, everyone is at fault.

Factually incorrect. I will not stop calling you out on it.

A group is a unit, not separate pieces. Pointing fingers is childish. Even if you didn't kill the group, you just are much responsible for not doing your part in the communication for the run. you was a member of that group, you are part of that group, and should take responsibility. Pointing fingers isn't being a good team member.

"Hey X, I noticed you aren't keeping up straight shot through the fight. It would greatly benefit your damage and help us over the enrage hurdle if you did that."

"Screw off Y, why doesn't everyone else just do more damage? We're all responsible for the damage."

"That's true, but we're all >2000 dps greater than you and maybe you could pick it up."

"No."

"Okay listen I am your leader and you will list--"

"Screw you Y, you aren't leader of dirt. This is a raid finder team."

@ thread

Yes?

everyone here really should stop the vendetta against me as imo i did nothing wrong, but give my opinion on the matter. And say my beliefs.

You put your ideas out into the open marketplace. Don't be surprised when they're rebuffed.

but honestly, i never stated i hate parser, never stated no one should use them

this type of toxic environment with parser/third party tools killed it.

all i stated was you don't need to use a parser to be good.

Nobody argued that point. We don't need healthbars to be good either.

all i stated was everyone in the group is/should be responsible if a run goes south. Mostly because that's the truth. If you don't act like a team, you won't beat content.

You're both right and wrong. You need to act like a team, but part of being a team is being the best member you can possibly be. You're also assuming everybody who runs raids does so in a static: they do not. Raid Finder and Party Finder exist for a reason.

acting like a team does include communication before a run, make sure people know what to do. Know where to stand. Use markers, macros with speech text to impotent skills (raise/voke/ect)

And what do you do when people just do not get it, and do not improve, no matter how hard the group tries?

If you just jump into content expecting a win, you are part of the groups issue if runs go south. You gotta make sure people are on the same page before you start. A leader who doesn't do this is just as much fault, as the person who stood in fire. Who is just as much fault as the healer who refused to raise them out of spite.

Sorry, but no. If you sign on for a farm group, you'd better know all of this without needing more than a few words of greeting. Personal responsibility, Red.

and the smile faces are letting ppl know im not being nasty/angry. That im trying to be pleasant.

Your actions and namecalling toward HyoMin let us know in a far more potent and real way that you're being petty. The smileys do not help, sorry to say. HyoMin, without an emoticon in sight, has been far more pleasant than you.

this post is gonna get cherry picked to hell so, ya not expecting much after this. lol

You're welcome again. Your entire post, dissected and responded to piece by piece. Before I go though...

this type of toxic environment with parser/third party tools killed it.

[MoroMurasaki]

epic post is epic

Is it inappropriate to be the tiniest bit in love with you after this post?