Quote Originally Posted by SDaemon View Post
If they can't be bothered to improve then that is a static issue and the player should talk with the static and if they want the player to improve then they should improve or find another static.
At least we agree on that aspect, but I still extend the same overall standard to PF. Like I said, I simply can't get behind the idea even a pug should just accept someone performing well below where they should relative to their ilvl just because they reach the DPS check. Frankly, its this mentality that caused Savage to be made easier and easier. Midas, in my opinion, was a solid tier even if I barely got to experience it personal yet people whined over how hard the mechanics and checks were. And therein lies the problem with accepting "just enough." Putting all that aside, PFs are allowed to make whatever stands they want. If you dislike how the leader handles something, you can leave. Some players will be far more tolerant than others carrying other people.