Built-in Parsers

[akaneakki]

Im still waiting for your scientific report where it says that people can handle a tool responsible without being a douche bag :P

Still waiting for the scientific report where it says that parsers make the community more toxic. If someone wants to be a dick he/she doesn't need a parser.

And also Khemorex if you read my signature, it's you saying it's ''fun'' to wipe people all the time in pve content. Whos being a douchebag?

[Ilan]

And also Khemorex if you read my signature, it's you saying it's ''fun'' to wipe people all the time in pve content. Whos being a douchebag?

Well i would say the evidence speaks somewhat for itself.

Why don't we just stop discussing about parsers anyway? The people who are scared that they get outed..ehm i mean are against a parser...will always drag some examples into the picture that are to 90% imagination and the ones who are pro parser can explain things and negate these examples but ps4 players will still not get a parser because yoshi fate believes in these wild examples.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

3) I'm not saying a parser will be a jerk just for being a parser. Once again, and let me be perfectly clear right here, a parse is a tool. Bad people will use tools for bad reasons. Putting the tool inside of the game sends a signal to some, not all, such bad people that they are getting a thing that they want and thus must be right. Sounds like bad logic, right? The fallacy lies in those same individuals, not in the majority of parsers I have encountered.

This is the constant rebuttal I see and hate. We acknowledge parsers are a mere tool that can be used both positively and negatively dependent on the person yet it shouldn't be allowed because some people are assholes? If SE handles harassment reports properly, said jerks will be held accountable. What actually seems to be the divide, and I'm not claiming your stance here, is people don't want others to see how good or poorly they are performing. Case in point...

Im still waiting for your scientific report where it says that people can handle a tool responsible without being a douche bag :P

You aren't a "douche bag" for simply pointing to a parse and telling someone they need higher numbers. Alas, that is usually the argument made against parses, albeit in a roundabout manner. Futhermore, a lot of non-raiders are the ones complaining when if parses were added for pre-made parties only, wouldn't have any impact on them. Don't like the feature while farming for mounts? Turn it off. You'll still get plenty of people joining your party.

Edit:

all mistakes are recoverable, no game content has a no win scenario. so yes everyone needs to own up.

Story time!

Just the other night during our weeklies clears, I misread my buffs in Neo and Elusive Jumped with Allagan Field thinking it was Acceleration Bomb + Unbalance. The result was my death by flipping off the platform. This triggers Allagan immediately, spending a massive high damaging shockwave across the entire raid. Now, do explain how the healers, tanks or three other DPS are at fault for my mistake. I suppose our Scholar should've had telepathy and known to Rescue in that precise moment so I wouldn't fall off right?

[MoroMurasaki]

Im still waiting for your scientific report where it says that people can handle a tool responsible without being a douche bag :P

The burden of proof lies with the claimant/accuser. You and the anti-parser side of this 'debate' claim that parsers breed toxicity. You've made a claim, now you have to prove it.

By using this sort of cyclic question in response to my question you only prove one thing; you are unable to provide compelling evidence for your argument. All you can do is whine about mean people while apparently causing wipes on purpose. If I ran into you in a game and you acted that way my response probably wouldn't be too kind either. Maybe instead of blaming parsers for why you encounter so much toxicity you should look in a mirror.

[akaneakki]

The burden of proof lies with the claimant/accuser. You and the anti-parser side of this 'debate' claim that parsers breed toxicity. You've made a claim, now you have to prove it.

I claimed how he/she is and also have it on my signature as proof as well. I wait for them as well.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

We're really reaching to make points now.

Don't misunderstand me, there are very valid points being made, and just as many good questions as irrelevant ones. However comma in the interest of not dragging this on - not because of being "dug into a hole" (I stand by what I said, regardless), but for the sake of avoiding conversational loops, and maintaining civility, lest I be mislabeled as lacking the comprehension of an elementary school child - I'll simply let it be.

You know where I stand. I've go no issues with parsers. However I don't believe I am at a disadvantage for not having it, for the reasons I've repeatedly said. If you feel otherwise, that's fine. If you agree with me, that's fine too. At the end of the day, you do and use whatever you do and use to get the job done (within allowable means), and do what's right for your team above all else. Everything else is white noise.

[Uielyave]

No parsers. Yoshi P has said multiple times that Parsers are not something he will want / allow in the game. So No. Quit beating a dead horse.

[Dualgunner]

No parsers. Yoshi P has said multiple times that Parsers are not something he will want / allow in the game. So No. Quit beating a dead horse.

Yoshi P *also* said that housing reclamation would never be a thing. He *also* said that personal housing and fc housing would be separate, and far more affordable. Things can change over time.

[JCharms]

After reading through this thread,(I'm bored) I am quite amused.
The way it has played out, with all the sniping and passive aggressive posts, this thread is like a massive beacon that solidifies the studios stance on adding such a feature... Funny stuff.

[Silica-chan]

After reading through this thread,(I'm bored) I am quite amused.
The way it has played out, with all the sniping and passive aggressive posts, this thread is like a massive beacon that solidifies the studios stance on adding such a feature... Funny stuff.

Nothing new this happened alot of times over the years. I can't wait until they ask Yoshi P about this lol. The last time he was asked about a personal damage meter he almost left the room haha.