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    Shirayuki Kova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lazaruz View Post
    And you really dont think that the moment it's included, even as a optional tool where it, in your opinion, is "needed" we're gonna start seeing threads wishing it's implemented on a wider scale because someone who, just as a example, wants to improve so they can do Extremes, Savage or Ultimate?



    Congrats. PF just beame unuseable for anyone not comfortable with a parser, if we follow that line of thinking
    Then it's OK for a scrub to sneak in to a PF and no one can call them out on bad DPS because no parser?

    The argument goes both ways lmao.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CookieMonsta View Post
    Then it's OK for a scrub to sneak in to a PF and no one can call them out on bad DPS because no parser?

    The argument goes both ways lmao.
    I don't think SE wants people calling people out for bad DPS, as it's likely to not be done in a polite way and just become abusive which they'd have to do something about. This seems to be one of there main reasons for not wanting to trust the community with this tool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jameseoakes View Post
    I don't think SE wants people calling people out for bad DPS, as it's likely to not be done in a polite way and just become abusive which they'd have to do something about. This seems to be one of there main reasons for not wanting to trust the community with this tool.
    SE should then take out HP bars so nobody can yell at healers. Then auto-magnetize everything to the tank so they can't possibly lose aggro. If we aren't allowed to judge one role's performance, why should we be allowed to judge any role's performance?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    SE should then take out HP bars so nobody can yell at healers. Then auto-magnetize everything to the tank so they can't possibly lose aggro. If we aren't allowed to judge one role's performance, why should we be allowed to judge any role's performance?
    This is a false equivalence. Mobs and bosses have HP bars and even percentages, you can observe how DPS are fulfilling their roles. What you can't observe is how each individual is fulfilling their respective role/s.
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    Last edited by Kyuuen; 10-30-2017 at 12:56 PM.

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    Player Dualgunner's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyuuen View Post
    This is a false equivalence. Mobs and bosses have HP bars and even percentages, you can observe how DPS are fulfilling their roles. What you can't observe is how each individual is fulfilling their respective role/s.
    Therefore it's not a false equivalence, as you can directly observe how each individual is fulfilling their respective roles for healing and tanking.

    EDIT: Especially when you consider the tanks and healers that do dps as well.
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